[Elecraft] P3 for Windows anyone?

[John Ragle]

Well, I believe I've answered your twice-asked question. Here is further 
elaboration. You have made a number of faulty deductions: e.g. (1) 
assuming I "don't like the way it works," [re the P3; not true]; (2) 
assuming that the LP-Pan "that seems to work the way you want it to,'" 
[not true]; (3) assuming that the curiosity and endorsement of Tom's 
project means that I would immediately ditch the P3's native mode in 
favor of a window'd version [which I might or might not do]. I mentioned 
(vide infra) that my shack computer serves many purposes more or less 
simultaneously, and that the loss of one monitor is a serious 
disadvantage. I also pointed out the close integration of the P3 with 
the K3, which I find to be excellent and advantageous.

First, it seems that many people /assume/ that the K3/P3 combination is 
a stand-alone unit. This is far from true. It is quite inadequate in its 
coverage of digital modes.  I would agree that as far as SSB and CW go 
it is a great unit, but almost all of my use of the K3/P3 combination 
requires a computer. I am not alone in this...look sometime at the 
digital segments of the bands. I operate PSK at various speeds, RTTY, 
Olivia and other similar modes, Hellschreiber, MS and JT modes, etc. in 
addition to CW and SSB on bands through 432 MHz. The stand-alone pair 
cannot do many of these modes.

Second, with a monitor pretty much occupied by digital software, 
*/dedicating/* my remaining second monitor to the P3 pretty much rules 
out other simultaneous uses, such as email, news, DX Sherlock, AZmap and 
other software.

Third, with the exception of NaP3, available software for LP-Pan or any 
of the SDRs is terribly designed and tends to take up an entire screen 
in itself.

Fourth, I meant endorsement of Tom's project of windowing the P3 output 
to show encouragement of the exploratory/educational aspect of the 
hobby, which is deemed a significant part of amateur radio operation.

I could go on and on in this vein, but I must say that it is really none 
of your business just what choices I make in implementing my use of the 
hobby. I noticed in the last round of discussion of this thread that 
there were people (such as yourself) who seem threatened by a new idea 
that may extend the utility of Elecraft's excellent hardware. This 
represents a lack of intellectual curiosity that reflects poorly on 
amateur radio.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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On 4/10/2012 4:17 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
> What was uncivil?  I was honestly curious why you'd buy a P3 when you 
> don't like the way it works, and I'm even more curious why you'd buy a 
> P3 when you already have the LP-Pan that seems to work the way you 
> want it to.
>
> Nothing wrong with having a Subaru and a Kia in the same garage unless 
> you don't like the way one of them drives.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 4/9/2012 11:04 PM, John Ragle wrote:
>> My operating computer also serves in a number of other capacities, and I
>> really hate the idea of giving up my second monitor to the sole use of
>> the P3. I would like Tom's project to succeed, and will also be glad to
>> alpha- and beta-test the project.
>>
>> John Ragle -- W1ZI
>>
>> =====
>>
>> On 4/9/2012 10:32 PM, ai6ii wrote:
>>>>> Sounds like an interesting project Tom. I had to give up my dual monitor
>>>>> setup to run the p3vga. It is quite addictive to see the full screen. But I
>>>>> run a lot of supporting software and have to run some minimized that I would
>>>>> like to keep more visible. Anyway, I would be happy to try out whatever you
>>>>> come up with. Sounds like fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> ..mike  AI6II
>>>>>
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