[Elecraft] K3 and Remoterig

Wed Sep 21 16:24:56 EDT 2011

sure will be great to have a K3 front to use in the setup.

Please Olli and others actually using remoterig Wich Internet speed (up and
down) do you need to be comfortable, for example calling a DX station in a
pile up?

thanks,
Jorge
CX6VM

-----Mensaje original-----
De: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Oliver Dröse
Enviado el: Miércoles, 21 de Septiembre de 2011 04:54 p.m.
Para: Wayne Burdick
CC: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Remoterig

Hi Wayne,

that's really fantastic news! I've been a user of the RemoteRig system for 3

or 4 years now (even with the first ever hardware version of them) but keep 
my IC-706 for remoting as I need a real radio interface / front panel to put

my fingers on (software remote solutions as with HRD simply do not give me 
the feeling of operating a rig). That's about the only (but very important) 
reason why I do not use my K3 #4546 for remote. ;-))

If you'll provide a "front panel only K3 interface" I am quite sure you will

easily sell hundreds of them. Kenwood started producing separate front 
panels for their TS-480's as it very very popular for RemoteRig control with

separated front panels and station sharing by several people using the same 
transceiver body.

So I am really looking forward to a single front panel to buy. ;-))

But what I do not understand (maybe my problem as a non-native English 
speaker) is why "additonal details will be provided when the RemoteRig boxes

become available"? As I understand you can also simply connect 2 K3's 
serially so all the intelligence for this "K3 duplicating" must be in the 
announced new K3 firmware. So no need for a "special RemoteRig K3 Twin" 
version as for RemoteRig's Yaesu Twin controllers. You can simply use their 
standard controllers (they would simply extend the serial cable) and should 
be fine! And those are readily available already. But maybe my understanding

is wrong then I would be grateful to get an explaination what is meant by 
your comment. ;-))

Anyway, keep up the good work! Month by month there are new exciting news 
from Elecraft. ;-))

Vy 73, Olli - DH8BQA
K3 #4546, KPA500 #??? (should arrive in next few days)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Burdick" <n6kr at elecraft.com>
To: "David Windisch" <davidjw at CINCI.RR.COM>
Cc: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Remoterig

> David Windisch wrote:
>
>> Can you say in advance whether the Remoterig "twinning" (no computer
>> required at client or host site) concept will be supported by the K3?
>
> Yes.
>
> The next release of K3 firmware will allow you to connect two K3s
> together, with one acting as a "terminal" only, the other as the
> "remote" radio. You can do this either with the RemoteRig control
> boxes, which do not use a computer, or just with a "null modem" cable
> going from one K3's RS232 jack to the other's. (A "null modem" cable
> can be made with as few as three wires.)
>
> The "terminal" K3 does not put out RF or audio -- that is handled
> cleanly over the network by the RemoteRig hardware. The terminal K3
> just sends switch/knob/potentiometer events to the remote K3. This
> means it can be a completely stripped-down K3, like a K3/10 with no
> options. If remoting K3s turns out to be very popular, we may in the
> future offer a K3 that's front-panel-only to be used just as a
> controller. The KX3 could also, in theory, be used to control most K3
> functions, although it has far fewer controls, so it wouldn't be a
> complete emulation.
>
> Virtually the entire K3 user interface is supported by the new remote-
> control protocol. It really feels like you're using the remote K3
> itself, including a 100% accurate emulation of the remote K3's LCD
> (flashing icons, etc.). Over a long-distance network there might be
> noticeable latency in the use of some controls. But with a direct
> connection or a LAN, there's barely any lag.
>
> You can manually go in/out of terminal mode, or let the RemoteRig box
> do it for you.
>
> Additional details will be provided when the RemoteRig boxes become
> available. They're doing extensive testing.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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