[Elecraft] FW: 4W6A Video, count the K3's !

[Dale Putnam]

And if all that is required is that, exactly what is the "exchange" ... I can gather that information with a rx. No Tx.. NO QSO! Maybe we have slid down the slippery slope so far that an exhange isn't required any longer... in that case I claim both current dexpedtions,because I have logged hearing them. Doesn't matter if they heard me or not. right?

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Dale - WC7S in Wy
 > From: anndel at hawaii.rr.com
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:04:54 -1000
> Subject: [Elecraft] FW:  4W6A Video, count the K3's !
> 
> I beg to differ unless I'm mistaken but DXCC doesn't require signal report
> exchanges.  All that's required are the frequency, date and time in UTC,
> callsign and mode.  These are the required parameters that needs to be
> uploaded in ARRL's Logbook of the World for DXCC credits/awards.
> 
> 73 Delwyn KH6DC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dale Putnam
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:37 PM
> To: ron at cobi.biz; xdavid at cis-broadband.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's !
> 
> 
> Because without an rst, however it is derived, the qsl isn't valid for dxcc.
> 
> --...   ...--
> Dale - WC7S in Wy
>  > From: ron at cobi.biz
> > To: xdavid at cis-broadband.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:19:22 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's !
> > 
> > Of course I thought it through Dave. In the video you'll hear the DX
> > operation say, "I gave him an 599 but he was an S1". 
> > 
> > My point was "why bother with a signal report at all if the station
> doesn't
> > ask for it". 
> > 
> > Ron AC7AC
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > 
> > Have you guys actually thought this through??
> > 
> > In most cases, the DX is trying to work as many people as possible as 
> > fast as they can.  Giving you an "accurate" signal report requires them 
> > to decide how strong you are (takes a small amount of time) as well as 
> > manually type into the logger a different number than the default (takes 
> > a lot of time, relatively speaking, to tab and type).  Everyone else in 
> > the pileup is going to be glad you didn't get your "accurate" report.
> > 
> > As for that "accurate" report, in most cases you aren't going to have a 
> > clue what kind of antenna the DX is using or even what direction it may 
> > be pointing at the moment, so signal strength is utterly meaningless.  
> > The DX isn't "lying" about anything.  You are simply deluding yourself 
> > if you think their report means anything other than that you were 
> > strong/readable enough to get through the pileup, which you should have 
> > recognized by that point anyway.  If you want a number different than 
> > 599, make up your own and log it ... it will easily have every bit as as 
> > much relevance under those conditions.
> > 
> > Dave   AB7E
> > 
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