[Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft

[Merv Schweigert]

> Doesn't your speculation presume that all the noise reduction
> functionality IS IN HARDWARE?  Last I looked at the K3 functionality,
> all the NR is in PROGRAM CODE, not burned into hardware chips.
Nope not at all Guy,  one thing if you program any at all you will find 
is you cannot speed up a
chip or increase its capability with programming.  If your out of speed 
and memory there is
nothing in programming you can do about it,  time to upgrade to a newer 
faster chip, so its
a handshake between programming and the hardwares capability.

>   Go
> read the schematic.  And since Wayne has been good about keeping up K3
> firmware, why would he code something new in the KX3 and not use the
> code and/or concept in the K3 to extend the product life?  I smell
> analog thinking.
>    
No analog thinking at all,  your are wrong.  why would they do in a KX3 
what cannot be updgraded
to a K3?  Because a K4 is on the line for one thing,  and another could 
be to keep the company going,
your going to have to buy a new radio every few years if you want E to 
continue.   Every product has to have a limit and
life end.  They will continue to "upgrade" the K3 as much as possible I 
am sure and support it,
but newer and better has to come along and sales have to continue.
And better cheaper chips come along, why not use them?  Whats wrong with 
that?
> Possibly if it does do something because more processing power is
> available, that's progress in the electronics industry, not some evil
> Elecraft conspiracy.  AND retrofitting a newer CPU in existing
> equipment is extremely expensive.  Upgraded circuit board, TWO paths
> of firmware development instead of one, etc, etc.
>    
You hit the nail on the head,  expensive to upgrade,  that will be the 
limiting factor with
continued K3 updgrades,  thats why I referred to a K4 and was asking if 
the newer chips
etc were not a preview of things to come in another radio.
Who said Elecraft was Evil??  you sure surmise a lot of things that are 
not said at all,
I have never had a better company to deal with,  I have no gripes at all.

I am not anxious to see my K3 go to the "second best" pile I guess,  if 
the K4 comes along and
is better than my K3 that means I must buy another radio or settle for 
second best.
If your a person who finally bit the bullet and bought a new K3 
yesterday,  and today they
announcement comes out for a much improved K4,  are you a happy camper??
But thats life.
There are small "bugs" in the K3 I would like to see improved but afraid 
some are in hardware
(not analog) that cannot be addressed at a cost that is bearable,  the 
software ones can be
addressed to some extent,  if the "hardware" is capable of the speed and 
memory requirements.
I am sure they will do what is possible for the money involved to keep 
the K3 going and
up to date.  The K3 is reaching the edge of the "hardwares" capability 
in a couple areas and
I think its time for a K4 with increased speed in the "chips" and 
horsepower to overcome
some of these problems.
> Be careful when you compare Wayne to Yakencom.  He REALLY does not
> deserve that.
>
>    
Oh come on Guy,  are you the overseer of Elecraft?  the moderator of the 
list?  are you
going to send a couple of hit men from the east coast out here to find 
me?  Dont threaten
me with be careful,   if anything I said offended Wayne he is certainly 
grown up and can
defend himself,  I have nothing but respect for him and the company, if 
not I would not
own their product,  go sit down and have another glass of Kool Aide and 
Kool off.
Dont send any hit men out here please,  we dont need any more shark 
bait,  thats where
they would end up.
73 Merv

> 73, Guy.
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Merv Schweigert<k9fd at flex.com>  wrote:
>    
>> And another subject,  no one has commented on the thread that
>> was going on about improving the DSP NR etc for the K3,  and
>> the fact that the KX3 will have a much improved DSP and newer
>> better chip??   Leaves the K3 owners kinda out to dry dont it?
>> Kinda the stuff that we always criticize YeaComWood for doing
>> when a new model came out and the old one could not be
>> updated?   Or is a K4 around?
>>
>>
>> Just asking,  Merv  K9FD/KH6
>>
>>
>>      
>>> Just not enough power.
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Hystad<phystad at mac.com>    wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> From: Phil Hystad<phystad at mac.com>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>        
>>>> Wes,
>>>>
>>>> Add a KPA500 to your setup.  It gives you all you ask
>>>> for: easier (aka quicker) band switching, very simple
>>>> display (interpret as nicer), FET finals, and definitely
>>>> enough weight.
>>>>
>>>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>>>
>>>>          
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