[Elecraft] Lightning season is on the way in New Mexico.

Phil Hystad phystad at mac.com
Mon Mar 28 22:53:15 EDT 2011


You guys should all move to the northwest, such as Seattle.   Lightning is more rare then a 100 degree summer day.  It happens but definitely not often.

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On Mar 28, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Mel Farrer <farrerfolks at yahoo.com> wrote:

> All of this is of course, very good advice.  I would like to add a little humor 
> experience driving through the southwest on the way back to my post at Fort 
> Gordon, GA.  
> 
> 
> I left CA and went to the southern route to GA which took me to Flagstaff, AZ  
> and east.  While on the way, I had my 6 meter antenna on the back of my 1957 
> Chev convertible and  the rig unconnected in the back seat.  While driving 
> across the desert, in the afternoon while the overhead storm was obvious, I 
> heard some snapping sounds, but could not find a source.  I stopped for dinner 
> and got back in the car to continue......  After a while I heard the snapping 
> sound again.  But everything still seemed fine.  When the light faded and the 
> sky darken, the snapping sound was accompanied by a flash in the car.  I pulled 
> off and looked around when it flashed again, it was the end of the coax 
> connector and the static electricity was arcing across the end of the 
> connector.   I piece of gum wrapper across the end stopped the arcing and I 
> continued to Ft. Gordon at ease.
> 
> 
> Mel, K6KBE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: FredJensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 4:39:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning season is on the way in New Mexico.
> 
> Grounding and lightning protection is not a simple subject Phil.  Here's 
> what I would recommend:
> 
> If your home is wired to NEC standards, the neutral [center-tap on the 
> pole pig] will be tied to the safety ground [green wire in your outlets] 
> and earth at the service entrance ... only.  This means that the "green 
> wire" in each outlet snakes back to the service entrance before 
> encountering a "real" ground.  It thus makes a useless RF ground and 
> lightning is RF [see below].
> 
> A.  You *must* tie your ground rod back to the ground at the entrance 
> panel.  NEC requires it and if it isn't so tied, it can create a real 
> safety hazard if you should encounter a ground fault.  Make it as short 
> as possible, buried is best, but if short means run under the house, 
> that's OK.  Use #14 copper or larger.
> 
> B.  AC is excluded from the inside of a conductor by the magnetic field 
> it creates, and flows near the surface [skin] effect].  The higher the 
> frequency, the closer to the surface it is.  The conductors on one of 
> the original 230 KV lines from Hoover Dam to Los Angeles are hollow for 
> that reason.
> 
> C.  Lightning currents are mainly RF, and flow only on the very surface 
> of the conductor and you want a lot of surface area, volume contributes 
> almost nothing.  So, wide copper strap is good.  Large gauge stranded 
> copper wire is less effective but better than solid wire.  For the fire 
> lookouts on peaks here in the Sierra Nevada, they use 3/8" - 1/2" 
> stranded wire running around the roof, catwalks, and tower legs, bonded 
> to everything including an extensive ground system.
> 
> D.  Surviving a direct hit to your tower or antenna is problematical at 
> best.  Even if you disconnect and ground your antenna [and rotator] 
> cables, the induced currents will create high peak potentials to your 
> equipment [and everything else in the house].  You can't stop that from 
> happening, and your radio chassis can momentarily rise to very high 
> potentials.The grounding goal for your equipment is to "keep it all 
> together."  The radio chassis can experience a peak pulse, but if 
> everything else also gets that same pulse, the differential potential 
> between them is very low, and little current will flow.  The way you do 
> this is to bring your ground strap into the shack, and using the 
> shortest wiring you can, ground *each* piece of equipment *separately* 
> to the same point on the strap.
> 
> E.  A grounded entrance panel for your coax and rotator cables is very 
> good, use Polyphasers or similar to bring the cables through.  They 
> won't survive a direct hit, but in that case, that's the least of your 
> worries, your house may be on fire by then. :-( They will clamp off 
> induced pulses however and limit potential excursions on your equipment.
> 
> F.  Unless your home is on stilts over salt water [unlikely in NM :-) ] 
> I'd guess that your ground rod is probably pretty high impedance for any 
> currents generated by lightning.  At the TV station I worked at in 
> college [500'  tower on a 1,300' ridge], the ground system ran all 
> around the building with a bunch of ground rods, and included things 
> like the tower, the fridge, plumbing, the 3 1/8" hard-line exterior, 
> even the gate on the road, and the steel trench covers inside,   They 
> still made a deafening "clang" when we took a nearby strike.  Hams do 
> install systems like that around their houses, it's expensive and it's 
> really a trade off with risk.
> 
> G.  If you have an Elecraft rig, you're covered.  If you don't, make 
> sure there's a bleed [RF choke or high value resistor] across the 
> antenna connector.  Precip static can sound innocuous if annoying, but 
> without the bleed, it can store charge in the input circuit and 
> ultimately cream it.  We killed 2 IC-756PRO II's in 2009 from this in a 
> snowstorm during the Cal QSO Party in Alpine County.
> 
> If you have any specific questions, I'd recommend first contacting Jim, 
> K9YC [who is really near Santa Cruz CA].  He has a wealth of information 
> and tutorials on his web site.  The grandson of Art, my Elmer of 57 
> years ago, W6RMK, now holds his grandad's call and has made his living 
> as a lightning expert.  If some question comes up, I'll be glad to take 
> it to him.  This pretty much exhausts my knowledge.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> Auburn CA
> On 3/28/2011 9:35 PM, Phil Townsend wrote:
>> Lightning question:
>> 
>> I have driven an 8 foot copper clad rod just out side my operating station. Its 
>> about 6 feet from the rod to my desk.
>> I have attached a solid copper wire (1/4" thick) to the ground post (with a 
>> ground rod clamp) The wire goes thru the wall and is bonded to a copper pipe 
>> that is 1-1/8" wide  that is just under the desk.
>> 
>> So on to my question:
>> What is the BEST way to connect my equipment (k3, SB-200 and a remote coax 
>> switch) to the copper pipe?
>> 
>> Coax braid  from RG8 or solid copper wire? and why....
>> 
>> 
>> Thank You guys...
>> 
>> Phil
>> Santa Fe
>> 
>> soon to be a xx5SSR...
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