[Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

Sun Jul 31 10:05:40 EDT 2011

I dont have the two receivers so that is the first thing that puts me at 
a disadvantage.

However, when someone is spotted and they say for example "2.4 UP", I 
assume that means something split.  So if I listen on VFO A that would 
be their transmitt frq and I would transmitt on VFO B up 2.4 khz or do I 
have it backwards?

Thanks

~73
Don
KD8NNU

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Mark Stennett wrote:

> I have used this split technique quite successfully and the K3 makes 
> it a breeze.
>
> The first secret is to wear your headphones. Put the K3 in split and 
> you will hear the main receiver in your left ear while the right ear 
> now has the sub receiver. Set up your filters to your liking.
>
> Listen on the main receiver and transmit on the sub receiver. Park the 
> main receiver on the DX and lock the dial so you don't accidentally 
> bump it. Slowly tune the sub receiver up the dial from the DX until 
> you start to hear the other stations the DX is working. Determine if 
> there is a pattern by continuing to listen - is the DX working 
> stations further up the dial after each contact? Down the dial? 
> Listening on the same frequency call after call? Read the mail, get 
> familiar with his style.
>
> The second secret is timing. To work the DX through the pileup you 
> have to put your signal where the DX is listening at that moment. By 
> figuring out his operating style you have a distinct advantage over 
> most of those ops who are blindly calling. Because of the pileup the 
> DX likely has his receiver running narrow. Zero beat your transmit VFO 
> with the guy he is working and drop your call as soon as he is 
> finished. If the DX is moving up the dial after each contact, move 
> your VFO slightly above that guy and make your call. Try to anticipate 
> where the DX will be listening next.
>
> While I have not tried for ST0R yet I have broken through many pileups 
> on my first  or second call, using the KPA500, a vertical dipole on CW 
> and this technique.
>
> 73 de na6m
>
>
> On 07/31/2011 07:38 AM, goldtr8 at charter.net wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> I have never understood this whole split operation setup much less
>> figuring out how to listen to someone working split and doing what 
>> you
>> stated below.
>>
>> Would you please try and explain it to me.    Others have tried but 
>> for
>> some reason i just dont get it, or it wont sink in.
>>
>> I was on the radio yesterday and saw many folks calling ST0R and 
>> figured
>> that wont work so well.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> ~73
>> Don
>> KD8NNU
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:22 AM, bob finger wrote:
>>
>>> I have been fascinated reading this thread.  Listening to the ST0R
>>> operation on many bands has been interesting to say the least.  You
>>> all that complain about the radio not automatically going into split
>>> really don't have a clue.  The K3 makes working rare dx a relatively
>>> simple task, from the radio perspective at least.  Antennas help too
>>> of course.
>>>
>>> One of the first rules of chasing dx in a split pile-up is knowing
>>> where the dx is listening.  You can't learn that if you are not in
>>> split before you ever make a call!  Listen!  Find out how he is
>>> operating and where he is listening.  Once you know that simple fact
>>> getting in the log is pretty easy.  90% of the callers in the ST0R
>>> pile are calling blind, and wasting their time and energy.  Be one 
>>> of
>>> the 10% that think before transmitting and you will be in the log.
>>> The guys at ST0R are super fine ops.  Wish I could say the same for
>>> everyone calling.  I have spent many hours listening to ST0R, have
>>> them in the log wherever I wanted and have a TOTAL trasmit time of
>>> maybe 5 or 6 minutes.  I've been listening for maybe 10 or 12 hours.
>>> I used the amp on 20, because that is the band that counts for me.
>>> Other band q's were with the k3 barefoot running only about 50 
>>> watts.
>>> Its a bit more of a challenge that way for me.  Okay off soapbox 
>>> now.
>>> 73 bob de w9ge
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