[Elecraft] KN, BK, etc.

[Sandy]

Been following, to an extent, this thread.

Since ARRL has stopped adding "operating procedures, "Q" signals, etc. and 
the "proper protocol" for telegraphic exchanges to the annual "Handbook", 
the newbies have no place to go to find out what is "proper" and what is 
not.

Contesters are famous at abbreviating "proper protocol" to shorten the 
"contact time" in hopes of higher scores.  Many times this is confusing to 
the "newbie" and they are sort of left to their own devices instead of a 
proper "how to..."

I find operating etiquette is sometimes very crude and rude and it is rather 
awkward to try and voice a correction to some people without getting them 
"P.O.ed" at you.

We REALLY need to train the "newbies" to use correct and polite procedures 
instead of "CB lingo" and some of the shortened crap I hear nowadays.  Where 
is "THE OLD MAN" columns that used to appear in QST years ago?

73,

Sandy W5TVW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lou Kolb" <loukolb at gmail.com>
To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KN, BK, etc.


> Ron,
>
> I would say MOST people don't 0-beat well.  one of my favorite k3 features
> is how easy it is to spot and 0-beat with it.  lou WA3MIX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <ron at cobi.biz>
> To: "'stan levandowski'" <sjl219 at optonline.net>
> Cc: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KN, BK, etc.
>
>
>> Stan, there's nothing like setting a good example. I was raised to
>> understand that respect for the rules of our land is respect for our
>> country. That is still my guiding principle.
>>
>> I, too (being old enough to remember laughing about the "Geritol Set"
>> before
>> becoming a member), continue to use prosigns exactly as the operating
>> guides
>> set them forth. I don't use them all, but commonly use SK at the end of 
>> my
>> last transmission of an exchange with another station, KN if I don't want
>> other calls breaking in (rarely used, but I do when the other signal is
>> marginal or when we're exchanging important information), of course 
>> always
>> DE between calls, and CL if I'm pulling the "big switch" and won't be
>> listening for other calls.
>>
>> After a CQ I also tune up and down at least 1 kHz for calls. Some folks
>> don't zero beat well, and there are still some xtal-controlled rigs out
>> there - often QRP in the hands of a very interesting operator I'll enjoy
>> chewing the rag with.
>>
>> I try hard to be charitable with those who use prosigns incorrectly but,
>> regarding DE or "this is", I will admit to a *very* curmudgeonly gut
>> reaction (close to 'up-chucking') when I hear someone on phone reverse 
>> the
>> proper order of call signs and say, "This is K6AAA standing by for 
>> W1BBB."
>>
>> In a word, "AAAAAARGH!"
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Ron AC7AC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> So I just keep operating in my old fashioned way, striving for accuracy
>> and try to avoid picking up 'bad habits'.
>>
>>
>> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>>
>>
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