[Elecraft] 'Q' signal trivia

[Buddy Brannan]

bk doesn't bother me so much if it's sent as BK and not _BK_ (i.e. not run together). For clarity's sake, if I just end with K I leave an extra amount of space so that meaning is clear, per Igor's note below. 

I don't ever use _KN_ myself anymore. Mostly because, yes, it's a parentheses, but also because all the ARRL books I ever read when I was studying back in the '80's, and these books were older than that by some amount, said that _KN_ means something like, "I only want a response from the other station, no breaking stations please", which doesn't seem terribly friendly. 
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On Jul 19, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Igor Sokolov wrote:

> When I hear something like UA9CDC de UA9AFK I always wonder if it is UA9AFK 
> or UA9AF K
> I always thought that BK is used when one wants to omit sending both call 
> signs in the end of message. I also thought that station sending BK wants to 
> tell me that he is using break in and therefore can be interrupted whenever 
> is needed.
> 
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Gregory" <garyvk4fd at gmail.com>
> To: "Mike Morrow" <kk5f at arrl.net>
> Cc: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 'Q' signal trivia
> 
> 
>> sounds good to me...AR
>> 
>> On 19 July 2011 13:04, Mike Morrow <kk5f at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bert wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've yet to hear --...  ...--  ... sent - hihi
>>> 
>>> Don't you mean --... ...-- .----. ... ?  :-)
>>> 
>>> My pet peeve is use of that damned "BK".  "KN" doesn't make much sense
>>> either...that's actually an open parenthesis.  Both are just ham-only
>>> prosigns that would never have been heard on professional military or
>>> commercial Morse radiotelegraph circuits.
>>> 
>>> What's wrong with the military standard:  If a response is expected from
>>> the other station, send "K" (equivalent to phone "OVER").  If a response
>>> is not expected, send "AR" (equivalent to phone "OUT").  That's it in
>>> total!
>>> 
>>> There's zero value to that repulsive "BK" that has spread like an ugly
>>> malignant Morse teratoma among many hams in the past decade or so.
>>> 
>>> Mike / KK5F
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