[Elecraft] Split not available

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

If VFO B is not on the same band, you are correct.  However, there
are plenty of times that one might want to use cross mode split -
it is quite common in VHF operation.

You can avoid the "VFO on the wrong band" issue simply by setting
CONFIG:VFO IND = No.  Therefore again, making the VFOs synchronize
VFOs as the default operation when turning split on/off is a bad
idea.  Quite simply, I regularly use VFO B as a quick memory and
have a PF key for B -> A to take advantage of that.  Your "Make
VFO B = VFO A" when turning spit on/off would completely destroy
that capability.

Anyone who wants VFOs to synchronize when turning split on or off
can easily write their own "quick split" macro (tap, tap, hold).
There are several examples of such a macro in the archives of this
list and probably an example in the Help files for the K3 Utility.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/12/2011 4:36 AM, Bob Naumann wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Again, ***if VFOB is not on the same band/mode as VFOA***, and you press and
> hold SPLIT (which clearly means you want to go SPLIT) this should cause a
> VFOA->  VFOB and then turn on SPLIT.
>
> Please explain how this is a bad idea and under what circumstances this
> would cause a problem.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:lists at subich.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:15 PM
> To: w5ov at w5ov.com
> Cc: Shel Radin KF0UR; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split not available
>
>
>> If the "Split" function were to include a A->B like I suggested
>> recently, this would not be an issue.
>   >
>   >  Some condemned this suggestion as a "bad" idea, but I doubt that they
>   >  operate much or they would know what a pain in the neck this is.
>
> No, I operate More than enough to know how much of a pain it would
> be if the VFOs were synchronized every time one turned split off -
> for example to move one VFO to a different pile-up.  Only to have
> lost the frequency saved in VFO B when returning to an original
> pile-up.
>
> Synchronizing VFOs every time the split status is changed is *still*
> a terrible idea but if you want to do that, you can use the K3 Macro
> capability to build your own "quick split" macro without causing
> inconvenience to others.
>
>   >  If VFO B is already on the same band and mode as VFO A, then just turn
>   >  Split on.
>   >
>   >  I find that the second condition NEVER occurs.
>
> I find the second condition is almost always the case and if it isn't
> two quick presses of the Split button is all it takes.
>
> 73,
>
>      ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2/11/2011 11:30 AM, w5ov at w5ov.com wrote:
>> If the "Split" function were to include a A->B like I suggested recently,
>> this would not be an issue.
>>
>> Some condemned this suggestion as a "bad" idea, but I doubt that they
>> operate much or they would know what a pain in the neck this is.
>>
>> The logic should be:
>> When Holding Split: if VFO B is not already on the same band and mode,
>> then it should do a VFO A ->   VFO B, and then Split should be turned on.
>>
>> If VFO B is already on the same band and mode as VFO A, then just turn
>> Split on.
>>
>> I find that the second condition NEVER occurs.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob W5OV
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Exactly.  I'm a new K3 owner (~1 week) and had the same issue a few days
>>> into
>>> ownership.    VFO B was in a mode other than DATA A.
>>>
>>> To prevent it from happening again, I added a double tap of A->B to my
> "go
>>> to RTTY"  macro, which copies the mode of VFO A to VFO B, so both VFOs
> are
>>> always the proper mode.
>>>
>>> GL&   73,
>>>
>>> Shel  KF0UR
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