[Elecraft] I don't think I'm getting out

Don Wilhelm w3fpr at embarqmail.com
Thu Aug 11 23:42:17 EDT 2011


Ed,

Hanging it out the window is the best idea.

That "counterpoise" is the other half of your 40 meter antenna - so if 
you want best results, put it up in the air at whatever height you can 
manage - treat it like an antenna radiator - because that is exactly 
what it is.

Caution:  an antenna with 32 foot elements each side of the feedpoint 
will present a high feedpoint impedance on 20 meters - so if you have 
trouble feeding it on 20, that is the problem.  It should respond quite 
nicely on 15 meters where it is approximately 3/2 wavelengths long.

The challenge is to use an antenna (or antenna and tuner combination) 
that will present a 50 ohm resistive load to the transceiver.  In the 
old days of transmitters with PI network output tank circuits, we have 
enough matching capability in the transmitter output to allow tuning 
into a variety of loads.  Modern transceivers are designed to operate 
properly into a 50 ohm load.  The Tuning elements to match an antenna to 
that 50 ohm requirement have been moved into the ATU - whether that be a 
manual tuner or an automatic tuner.  We still have to have some means of 
matching the output of the transmitter load impedance to the antenna 
feedpoint impedance.  The alternate solution is to have a resonant 
dipole for each band that presents a 50 ohm load to the transmitter.  
That is not practical for everyone.  Even the much acclaimed G5RV does 
not have an SWR of 1:1 on all bands.

The reason I mention this is that the KAT2 will have the most trouble 
matching high impedance loads.  As a compromise, extend both sides of 
the antenna to 44 feet, or better yet, use the W3EDP lengths of 85 feet 
with a 17 foot "counterpoise" - that will create something like an 
off-center-fed 80 meter antenna that is usable on most HF bands (with a 
tuner like the KAT2).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/11/2011 10:59 PM, EMD wrote:
> Guy
>
> Thanks for the advice.  I think I'm getting out okay.  I hooked up my
> MFJ-267 Watt meter dummy load and when I have the power set to 10 watts I'm
> getting close to 10 watts forward but the reflected is about 5 so that tells
> me the antenna is the issue.  I have a KAT2 ready to install so I would bet
> I will get better results once I install the tuner.  I will lengthen the
> counterpoise to 32' and see what happens.  Since I'm upstairs in a spare
> bedroom as an office /shack should I run the counterpoise on the floor,
> which I'm doing now or hang it out the window?  I don't think hanging out
> the window is the right idea.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> 73,
> Ed ke7hga
>


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