[Elecraft] Low headphone audio level

[Steve Ellington]

Ok guys...now calm down!
I shouldn't have said anything.
The K3's audio is just fine and there's plenty of it.
I was just comparing it to the IC-7000.
I never use internal speakers.
Yes I know about the hi/low setting in the menu and yes I'm using an 
efficient speaker and no I'm not deaf. I'm just saying that some other rigs 
have more AF power and perhaps there is a reason.
Looking at the K3's specifications, I don't see what the AF power rating is 
so it's hard to compare.
So YES....The K3 has plenty of audio....at 8:00 o'clock or whatever....Of 
course at 11:00 o'clock I do turn it down!

Steve
N4LQ
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<elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>; "Tom W8JI" <w8ji at w8ji.com>; 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level


> Steve,
>
> I have never found a radio with an internal speaker that I liked. The 
> FTdx9000D came close. (But what a price tag)
>
> I have always used external speakers as well as put up with degraded 
> hearing.
>
> The K3 driving various speakers (non amplified) provides good audio levels 
> for me to the point whereby I can clearly hear voices at 10 plus metres 
> from the radio.
>
> This was not always the case. I sent mine to Aptos for upgrades to the 
> current spec earlier this year and the audio has been improved 
> dramatically since it's return.
>
> I wonder if you have the problem I had?
>
> Mine (#679) is now superb to my ears. I run the AF at 10 o'clock or less 
> with or without the CM-500 headphones.
>
> 73's
> Gary
> VK4FD
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Steve Ellington" <n4lq at carolina.rr.com>
> Sender: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:32:56
> To: Tom W8JI<w8ji at w8ji.com>; <nf4l at nf4l.com>; <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level
>
> As far as I'm concerned, all the audio is weak on the K3. Using the same
> speaker, the little IC7000 blows the K3 off the desk. Maybe it's got
> something to do with current drain. The Icom does use considerable more
> power in receive mode and runs pretty hot. The K3's audio is quiet 
> adequate
> but just not very loud.
>
> Steve
> N4LQ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji at w8ji.com>
> To: <nf4l at nf4l.com>; <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level
>
>
>>>> We sort of got sidetracked from the original posters remarks. It's 
>>>> about
>>>> low
>>>> headphone level on the K3. If the level were a bit higher there would 
>>>> be
>>>> no
>>>> need to plug the headphones into the speaker jack. Similarly each pair
>>>> of
>>>> headphones you grab seems to have a different level. I have 3 different
>>>> headphones and don't intend to buy a forth. Naturally the one that is
>>>> the
>>>> most comfortable is also the one with the lowest level. And I 
>>>> understand
>>>> that most people don't seem to have this problem. It might be better
>>>> hearing
>>>> or better headphones.
>>
>> A good audio line with lots of volume headroom is everything. I can't
>> imagine spending so much time on everything else in the station and then
>> not
>> spending any time on something used and changed all the time like the
>> audio
>> output lines.
>>
>> I have never liked nor used the headphone jacks in anything from my
>> boatanchors up through my FT1000's of all flavors and the K3. I've never
>> found them suitable or flexible enough for my tastes.
>>
>> I always run the speaker line out to a switching system, and I terminate
>> that line in a load safe for the radio. Then I bridge off that line with
>> either a good big speaker and audio amp, or headphones.
>>
>> I have virtually no problems at all with any headphone bridging across 
>> the
>> speaker output lines of any radio, and I can bridge multiple headsets at
>> once.
>>
>> The toughest thing for me is to get guest ops to stop using the headphone
>> jacks on receivers and transceivers, and to use the desk mounted jacks.
>>
>> http://www.w8ji.com/cables_and_wiring.htm
>>
>> I have to finish that page some day. :-)
>>
>> 73 Tom
>>
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