[Elecraft] K3 Audio routing question

[The Smiths]

If the Silicone Police didn't interfere, this feature that has already been programmed and ready for implementation could be turned on and this discussion would be over.
Some times it's just easier to let a feature go that others don't see the use for instead of policing how others use their radios.  This is NOT a feature that would affect your operation if it were made available.

I know that Lyle sees this as being the case, as he's already said exactly what I just did.  However, what disappoints me more is the fact that Joe, you didn't even bother to try it out like I asked you too...  You're mind is just made up before you've seen what it actually does on some weak signals.
There is more than just myself out here that don't have the perfect Diversity antenna set up.  Many people in small QTH's have exactally what I have for a set up, and this feature would help them out greatly.  You've already heard from others that have their ideas on how to use this feature too.

Yes, you're right, If I wanted to operate in Dual receive mode and track my VFO's together then make sure antennas were set up the way that they need to be, adjust all the other features, make sure the Width is set together... Or, I could just turn on the Mixer!

Now, this has become an argument.  At this point we should STOP talking about this.. We're agreeing at the same time we're arguing....Enough said.

 
> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:17:59 -0400
> From: lists at subich.com
> To: notforchat at hotmail.com
> CC: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio routing question
> 
> 
> > For me, the need for the audio mixer is not to crush the stereo XY,
> > but more to let me receive while in diversity mode BOTH of my
> > antennas at the same time, and let the mixer route my audio to both
> > headsets so as I don't have to listen to it fall from one over
> > another.
> 
> In your case you don't have true diversity - you are not hearing the 
> same signal on both receivers. You could achieve the result you seek
> simply by using the dual receive mode and locking the two VFOs on
> the same frequency. Again, it does not require any programming
> time and does not create the possibility for operator error in
> diversity.
> 
> 73,
> 
> ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> On 7/5/2010 11:57 PM, The Smiths wrote:
> >
> > Okay Joe,
> >
> >
> >
> > Your point is very well taken.. I understand what you are saying very
> > clearly. I have the scope, and I've set it to look at phase between
> > the two channels. I guess I need to clarify something. When I'm in
> > diversity mode I don't seem to have both signals on both antennas at
> > the same time.
> >
> > This is where we are having a problem communicating. I'm not going
> > to disagree with your theory that the signals WOULD cancel out the
> > stereo imaging if I were to push one phase onto the other. I believe
> > this is true, and I know it for fact.
> >
> >
> >
> > However, where I am having an issue is when my poor receiving
> > Vertical antenna is NOT receiving a signal my Well receiving Horz
> > antenna is, and then Some times reverse. I would like to be able to
> > "mix" the main onto the sub, and the sub onto the main's earphone
> >
> >
> >
> > For me, the need for the audio mixer is not to crush the stereo XY,
> > but more to let me receive while in diversity mode BOTH of my
> > antennas at the same time, and let the mixer route my audio to both
> > headsets so as I don't have to listen to it fall from one over
> > another.
> >
> > Admittedly, I don't have the best "diversity" set up here at my QTH,
> > so for me it's more important that I keep a constant signal in both
> > ears rather than one at a time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, just for the sake of it, I would like you to tune to a signal
> > that you are having the phasing sound with in diversity mode. Then,
> > go to the utility and enter in !BEFF; in the terminal window. I
> > would then like you to email me back and let me know that you didn't
> > hear BOTH of your antennas at the same time, in both ears. I would be
> > interested to know if you get NO signal at all from the same very
> > station you were just listening to in both ears. Or even a reduced
> > signal level. From my experience I've never had a signal cancel on
> > me, I've only had it double in loudness. I'm sorry, I know this goes
> > against what we both agree on when it comes to XY phase, but it's
> > just the way it is. Do it for yourself and stop thinking theory.. Try
> > reality. (I don't mean that as an insult, but rather a practical
> > challenge.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Again, even if this was the worst idea, it's still not going to
> > affect YOUR rig if you never turn it on. This isn't an argument.. I
> > was merely backing up the reasoning that the other person made the
> > request. So, other than your return email to me after you've
> > completed my test, can we PLEASE end this thread? Were beating a dead
> > horse.
> >
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