[Elecraft] 6M CW

Tue Jul 6 02:11:57 EDT 2010

Heck I guess I'll stop doing that...  I've just kinda learned from
listening to the bands.  I'm finally getting my speed up fast enough
that actually carrying on a QSO is possible.  At 8WPM your RST, Name,
QTH, RIG and ANT is a 30 to 40 minute conversation.  ;)  However at
13WPM I've been able to actually have conversations with people about
the K3 find out that they've recently retired and what they used to do
and well all sorts of fun stuff... (I'm referring to a 40 minute
conversation that I had on 40 last night...)  

Then heck I ran into a guy the other day who was only about 20 minutes
bike ride from here.  We ended up having a 1.6 hour or so QSO.  Both of
our brains were going to mush by the end as we were both working hard
for it but hey its fun!

I'm by no means an old salt at the age of 29 but I do try to be polite
and do find it fun to get into the longer QSO's via CW.  I often find
that SSB bores me for casual operating but I do find SSB interesting for
contests.

But anyway just wanted to let you know that your post has hit home with
someone and I'll start sending my call a few times when answering a
CQ...  I usually figure that I want to try and get in there quick before
their auto repeat kicks in....  Then if they need a fill we can always
take care of that later.  Guess I've been being rude all this time and
had no idea.

Sorry...

~Brett (N7MG)

On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 16:13 -0500, Sandy wrote:
> This phenomenon is not restricted to 6 meters!  The same thing happens on HF 
> as well: people looking for "club" numbers, grid squares, counties,etc., 
> etc.  The whole "contest" mentality has corrupted all the "old" and "polite" 
> methods of establishing a QSO when there are no contests at all!  Also the 
> "Elmers" of today, aided and abetted by the ARRL, have all but completely 
> "eliminated" the normal calling protocols of yesteryear.  It isn't at all 
> "unusual" to tune up and send a few "V's"  and have someone just drop their 
> callsign on you just ONCE!  As I now an "old timer" in age and amateur 
> radio, I "wonder" when this happens.  Is this chap calling me?  Is he just 
> testing?  Even if you send "QRZ? de W5TVW K" you may just get a callsign 
> sent ONCE!  Also people sending: "DE W4ABC" instead of calling "CQ". 
> "Newer" QRPers answering a CQ call just sending their callsign just ONCE! 
> There isn't that "all important" OPERATING section still published in the 
> "Handbook"!  Guess the folks at ARRL thought they could make a few extra 
> bucks by publishing a special book dealing with that subject that obviously 
> everyone ISN"T buying!
> I enjoy contests on CW doing QRP and usually these are limited to a small 
> segment of the CW sub-band, and they don't seem to be on every weekend.  6 
> meters used to be a  really "fun" band back in the "AM" phone days, but I 
> didn't figure it would be degraded to nothing but "hello, goodbye" type 
> contacts.
> 
> Sorry for this, guess I sound like a grouchy "old fart" but where has all 
> the politeness gone?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Sandy W5TVW
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "WILLIS COOKE" <wrcooke at yahoo.com>
> To: "Jim Brown" <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>; <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW
> 
> 
> I don't feel that way at all. A contact in which only grids are exchanged 
> leaves me with little satisfaction at all. I at least like to exchange names 
> and QTH. I get enough of the quicky QSOs with contests. I don't need more on 
> six meters or digital contacts. I know I am out of step with the avant 
> guarde, but I don't enjoy six meters much because of these quick exchanges.
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 10:41:55 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] 6M CW
> 
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 08:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Ken McGuire wrote:
> 
> >I was frustrated at how slow the chats were on SSB (FM was even worse) -
> >it seemed like they were wasting a perfectly good band opening ragchewing
> 
> Yep. Same here. Often, an opening on any given path may be there only long
> enough to exchange the grid and report. It's quite frustrating to wait to
> call a station that was S9, then S7, then S5, then S3, then fumes, while
> the time is filled with innanity.
> 
> >When I turned down to the CW portion of the band, it almost sounded like
> >a CW contest weekend.
> 
> Yes. I've gotten to the point that I spend most of my 6M efforts on CW,
> only tuning up to the SSB portion of the band when nothing is happening on
> CW. And thanks in part to the proliferation of K3s, there is a lot more CW
> activity than there was only 5 years ago.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
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