[Elecraft] K3 auto spot function

[The Smiths]

Yes, Brendan, you DO understand what I'm asking for. And YES, your approach WILL work, but it adds MANY more steps in that are not required and causes me to loose a 750 Euro sub receiver that I've paid for.  With that said, I will address the other issues.

I don't need to test this function, I already know that it works, and it's what I want. Therefore I suggested it.  Others are of course welcome to test it as well.  I'm sure they will see the usefulness of it if they find themselves using the RIT on a normal occasion.
There's a reason that we all set the PITCH freq. up the way we do.  That reason is because we've found that our selected Pitch tones helps us "hear" the code better, Makes listening to code more pleasent, and it can some times actually help eliminate the noise floor some. 

Yes, a signal must be within the passband of the Filter.. this is true.  However, after I send a CQ, I generally keep my filter at 500Hz.  If I hear someone that is answering my CQ, but is off by 300 Hz from my "pitch" freq. then I can simply turn on the RIT (or already start with it on) and hit the SPOT button.. NOW, this gives me the ability to QUICKLY turn the WIDTH knob all the way down to 50 Hz KNOWING that the person answering my call is right in the center of my Passband, and I'm not going to loose him as I narrow down.  
This is a QUICK and easy operation at pin pointing someone almost instantly. I simply push ONE button, grab the width knob and turn it all the way down... BANG it's done.  No fishing around to try and line the little CWT tone into the center of the goal post, no moving the shift around to find the signal as I lower the Passband WIDTH control knob, No having to guess if the tone of my Pitch matches the tone as I fish the RIT knob around. Maybe I'm tone deth and I can't hear when I'm at 500Hz and the person is at the center of my Passband. Maybe I don't have time to fiddle with the knob as he's responding to my CQ. NONE OF THAT.. It's a ONE step operation to assuring all of that.. As well as;

1 - Have the person in the Pitch Tone that 
    A. Gives my ears the best copy of the code
    B. Gives me the best noise floor level with the NR I may be using

2 - Places the person answering me DIRECTLY in the CENTER of the passband so that I can
    A. turn on my narrowest filter and not have to touch the Shit control
    B. have the best/ most accurate internal CW Text decoding available to me.
    C. Know that I'm still transmitting exactly where I was to begin with when sending the CQ.

3 - Not hang up my sub receiver from being useable for cross band, or in-band monitoring

4 - Not make me turn on and off the CWT Text reader to figure out where I'm transmitting when in split mode.

Now, I've just given you 9 reasons that ONE push of ONE button can be helpful.  Please, tell me, How does having the SPOT button move your RIT control automatically to accomplish ALL of those things interfere with your normal operations of the K3? Again, KEEP IT IN THE DEFAULT "OFF" POSITION IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR RIT TO MOVE WITH THE SPOT BUTTON.  There is absolutely NO adverse effect of this VERY SIMPLE programing request.

What more do you need to argue against it? 

Just because the first cars had "forward motion" doesn't mean that it couldn't also opperate in Reverse too. The same reasoning says that just because the K3 Spot button only moves your TX position now, doesn't mean that it can't also move your RIT position as well.  

Now, I ask you Brendan, Have you missed something in the Logic here?

 

 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 auto spot function
> From: ei6iz.brendan at gmail.com
> To: notforchat at hotmail.com
> CC: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:01:04 +0000
> 
> I DO understand exactly what you are asking for and WHY doing it in
> split on the second VFO for TX is not exactly what you are looking for.
> 
> The best I can do is a macro that uses the Sub RX to achieve a similar
> result. 
> Yes it means that you can't use your Sub for other things BUT it does
> allow you and others to test the Idea of spotting the RX separate from
> TX to see if it is in fact a useful feature.
> 
> The macro can't turn off CW-T mode, It MUST be on for auto spot to work.
> CW decoding CAN be off when in CW-T mode. 
> CW-T mode MUST remain on whilst the Auto spot is attempting to zero
> beat, the amount of time to zero beat varies, Turning it off in the
> Macro does not give it time to complete the signal detection and tuning
> routine before the macro turns off CW-T 
> 
> Here is why I, even after trying it out, I think this feature request
> has no merit, My personal opinion.
> 
> For auto-spot to work on any signal it must be within the passband of
> the selected filter. 
> If the signal is within the passband I can hear it, therefore I can copy
> it, the Pitch of the incoming signal is of no importance to me,
> providing I can hear it. 
> I have rit on nearly all the time (but zeroed) If I was using auto spot
> for it's original purpose then this new suggested behaviour would break
> an existing behaviour 
> 
> If I was relying on a CW decoder then it might be important to be able
> to net the RX independently of the TX.
> If it's something like CWget surely you just click on the waterfall or
> let it find the signal it's self 
> if it's the internal decoder then the macro will work fine since you
> can't see vfo B anyway when decoding on screen 
> 
> have I missed something in my logic here ? 
> 
> 73
> Brendan 
> 



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