[Elecraft] K3 auto spot function

[Brett Howard]

Why aren't you willing to give the SPLIT option a try...  

Rather than asking someone to code something up for you when someone
gave you a fairly viable option why not try to give that a chance?  I
think you could probably get very close to what you want.  Heck when
hearing this I thought it might be interesting to try always being in
SPLIT mode with the VFO's linked and then use VFO B as your TX then see
what happens when you hit CWT?  When the CWT tunes VFO A does it move B
too?  If it does then perhaps you tune with the VFO's linked then when
you enter into a QSO unlink the VFO's and use the CWT feature as you
want.  You don't have to get RIT involved you can just use your two
VFO's.  I've not tried it yet but I wonder what locking VFO B and tuning
VFO A while they are linked does..  These could be interesting cases
that could allow for some interesting things.  Perhaps you'll find a bug
to submit to Wayne and while he's in that section of code he'll
implement your RIT feature?

I see your getting agitated about this and your angry with people for
not seeing things your way but you need the ability to try the ideas of
others and at least try to see things from that side.  

My opinion on this feature is that when I'm wanting to use RIT I'd
rather have custom control over it for each instance as I hear different
pitches better in the presence of different types of noise.  Therefore I
want the ability to just turn a knob and get things to my preference
quickly.  Not to what my preference was when things were quiet and I set
my pitch preference.  

Finally stating that people who have engineering degrees can't
understand others personally offends me.  I feel that you are the one
having problems understanding as well.  The SPLIT suggestion was a valid
one (and your comment saying that it involved the subreceiver is also a
misunderstanding).  The subreceiver is not needed to do SPLIT and its
not needed to use the SUB button to link and unlink the VFO's.  If you'd
like assistance in trying some of these options I'd be glad to run
through some of them and see how they perform and then help explain
them.  I fully understand what you want to do and I might even be able
to spend some time and help you get there with out requesting a change
of the firmware.  I even have 2 of those dad burn engineering degrees!
Perhaps the MBA cancels them out?

~Brett (KC7OTG)



On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 02:42 +0000, The Smiths wrote:
> stop, STOP, STOP.  Please stop trying to tell me why I don't want a feature that I'm asking for!  I KNOW how the spot works, I use it ALL the time, I KNOW how my RIT works, I use that all the time... I know when and how to use my Width control knob.  I know when I can use my spot button with it.  
> 
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> 
> People, it's a freaking Spot and RIT combination that I'm looking for here.  I'm not looking for any of you to tell me how I can do the same thing, when a simple one button push of the spot button will do EVERYTHING I'm asking for. 
> 
> You don't need to explain to me how I can tune in a second K3 to another band, listen to a harmonic, then hit my sub receiver on, then use the spot button while turning my 3rd receiver's vfo control to zero beat the signal..
> 
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> 
> I just want the Spot button to simply work as a Zero beat control when the RIT button is on, WITHOUT moving my Transmit freq.  I'll worry about how all the rest of the operations of my station function.  It's really just that simple.  
> 
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> 
> Some of you guys on the reflector just want to make things harder than they need to be, I have to figure it's because you have an engineering degree, and don't know how to think like the "simple man".  
> 
> 
> This is why my mother took 12 years to figure out how to set the clock on her VCR.  Too bad I had to take it away and replace it with a DVD player.  I suspect it will take her another 10 to figure the menus out on that one too.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 auto spot function
> > From: ei6iz.brendan at gmail.com
> > To: notforchat at hotmail.com
> > CC: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:48:44 +0000
> > 
> > But auto spot can ONLY work on signals inside the passband to it cant
> > help in this situation in any case.
> > Presumably you are using a very narrow filter because you have nearby
> > strong signals
> > I don't see how it can help in this siutaton 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 00:53 +0000, The Smiths wrote:
> > > I DISSAGREE with you completely. When you use a 100/50Hz Narrow
> > > Bandwidth setting you NEED to have the other station Zero Beated or
> > > they fall out of the bandwidth area, or become hard to find with the
> > > Shift control.
> > > 
> > > I don't know about you, but I've set my pitch control to a freq. that
> > > I enjoy hearing, or is best for my hearing. If I could QUICKLY and
> > > without work just tap a button and Zero Beat the person to the
> > > selected freq. that I know suites my hearing, I don't see this as an
> > > unnecessary feature. The spot button is used for EXACTALLY the same
> > > reason, just with Transmit now.. Why not allow it to do the same
> > > helpful thing with receive???
> > > 
> > > Again, as I've said before, Don't turn it on if you don't find use for
> > > it. Yes, RIT works too, but just as the other person was saying in
> > > his original post, HE IS TONE DETH and can't tune in the signals to
> > > his pitch freq... that's why he uses the SPOT feature. This would
> > > allow him to have the same simple control with the RIT as well. 
> > > For those of you that will argue that we have the CWT "goal post"
> > > indicator, I say this, I've found many times where it either doesn't
> > > work well, or it indicates a Zero beat when you are pretty far off.
> > > 
> > > Again, this is an OPTION that can be used to HELP people. It doesn't
> > > offer ANY negative operations to your radio. Why people fight things
> > > so hard is just wondrous to me.
> > >  		 	   		  
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