[Elecraft] Elecraft P3 panadapter
Jim Miller KG0KP
JimMiller at STL-OnLine.Net
Sat Feb 13 12:32:03 EST 2010
I disagree. I would prefer to have them take whatever time is needed to
make the FINE products they are. I will wait for the quality they produce.
I am an Elecraft customer BECAUSE of the products, support, and ongoing
additional features that get added. My radio continues to get better long
after I get it and many of the "improvements" are those WE request. I do
get anxious about new product but that is because they are so open with
information about them. I am one that believes this process is very
advantageous to the development of some of the product features in creating
the "best" possible practical product.
----- Original Message -----
From: "S Sacco" <nn4x.steve at gmail.com>
To: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <olinger at bellsouth.net>
Cc: <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 panadapter at the Orlando Hamcation
> Guy -
>
> Please don't forget that Elecraft sucked in quite a few of us on the K3 by
> promising wildly optimistic delivery dates. I consider that to be a
> highly
> questionable business practice.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV
> <olinger at bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Dave - AB7E <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Are the feature list and specifications now firm? And if so, what are
>> they? I would have thought that anyone contemplating spending $700 for
>> any
>> box, even with the Elecraft name on it, would want to know what it does
>> before sending off the check.
>> >
>>
>> I should note that putting a prototype, and then later a working early
>> model in front of the public for comment at some convention-style
>> event, is RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. Early ham feedback at hamfests is
>> essential, and it too is R&D.
>>
>> It's only the customers (and pent up demand) that are mistakenly
>> insisting that they are slow. You want the kind of innovation and
>> service they are known for, you have to wait. It's not a flaw or
>> laziness, or some kind of commie plot to rob us of our toys. It's
>> careful business. Good stuff at good prices is the hardest thing to
>> do. What was that thing, you can have two of the three, quick,
>> quality, low price? (Personally, I'm betting quality AND low price is
>> at the root of the amp thing, I'll wait.)
>>
>> I wonder if anyone has noticed businesses going down for getting even
>> close to the edge these days? Hello? The early plunk for the K3 was
>> a VOLUNTARY early alternative financing scheme. Lot better than them
>> being leveraged by a bank that pulls the plug on them for completely
>> unrelated reasons. Any Rip Van Winkle types please check the
>> financials for the last couple of years for historical information and
>> note that Ronald Reagan is not president any more.
>>
>> Personally, I want Elecraft around for a while. Conservative business
>> practices with no screeching tires at cliff's edge is just super
>> peachy fine by me. There is no TARP fund bailout for Elecraft. They go
>> down, we're back to getting our stuff from Yakencom and stuck with
>> what they decide for us, whether we like it or not.
>>
>> And some folks WOULD plunk now for unfirm features (and there's no big
>> gorilla around MAKING anyone plunk -- it's a CHOICE one makes), with
>> the personal SELF-assurance that if it isn't what they want, they can
>> come here and sell it on the reflector, fast.
>>
>> 73, Guy.
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