[Elecraft] Numbers, Numbers, Numbers

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 > Playing devil's advocate here folks have often lauded the K3 for
 > being at the top of the Sherwood list so it was fine to "go by
 > the numbers" then.  So we should not discount them now.

I don't think anyone is (or should be) "discounting the numbers."

Numbers are the only objective standard available for evaluating
two similar products.  However, one can't simply look at one
parameter - particularly 2 KHz IMDDR3 as the "only" parameter than
matters.  In the case of the FT-5000 vs. K3, 2 KHz IMDDR is a
"dead heat" (effected by the skirt selectivity of the first IF
filter) but other factors including filter ultimate rejection
and LO noise make the K3 the overall winner.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/2/2010 10:21 AM, GREG FICHER wrote:
> Playing devil's advocate here folks have often lauded the K3 for being at
> the top of the Sherwood list so it was fine to "go by the numbers" then.  So
> we should not discount them now.  To me...the two radios seem almost dead
> even.  That said....I still prefer the K3 by far due to it's modular design,
> ease of repair (simple board swapping), service, feature growth and the
> dedication of the owners and engineers who brought this fine radio to life.
>
> I suspect that when customers report glitches on the FT5K it will be quite
> awhile before new FW is available for download.
>
> Oh....there's the money thing too.  :)
>
> 73...enjoy your radio..whatever you have....
>
> Greg
> AB7R
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Lee Buller<k0wa at swbell.net>  wrote:
>
>>
>> Some people here on the reflector have already stated this...but what do
>> the
>> numbers from the Sherwood web site really mean?  Are these numbers so close
>> together that you just start picking nits?
>>
>> Two guys want to buy a vehicle.  One went to Ford, the other went to Chevy.
>> (You can see where this is going)
>>
>> They can look at the vehicle...sit in it...turn the knobs on the dash...but
>> they
>> cannot run the engine or take it out for a test spin.  (Just like we cannot
>> take
>> a rig on a test spin - we can look at them in hamfests, but we can't take
>> one
>> home for a week to really give it a test drive.)
>>
>> So, these two guys take a look at the specs between the two cars.  They
>> have the
>> "numbers."  The only real difference is 1 inch on the wheel base, one car
>> has 5
>> more cubic inches of displacement, and one has 10 more horse-power than the
>> other.
>>
>>
>> They both have nice paint, finish, chrome, and all the basics one needs for
>> a
>> car...4 wheels, steering wheel, AC, power this and that, and automatic
>> transmission.  Just a few things are different.
>>
>> Price is different...the Ford cost $5,000 more than the Chevy.
>>
>> So one guy picks the Ford and the other pics the Chevy?  Why?  One
>> certainly
>> costs less but the specs are "oh so close"
>>
>> As ham radio operators...are we that competitive that every DB of this or
>> that
>> matters?  What do the numbers really mean?  All this is lost to me because
>> of
>> "the noise of the numbers."  Where does operating skill come in?
>>
>> Now, look on down the Sherwood list and you see some older rigs coming in
>> pretty
>> good.  Have we lost perspective in this number numbing battle for the best
>> receiver?  The Drake 4C looks pretty good.  The 765 looks good too.
>>
>> > From my perspective...the K3 is the best rig I have ever owned...it beats
>> my
>> Ocean Hopper, my NC57, my HR-10B, my HW100, my TS520, 820, 830, 850, my
>> .....
>> and the list goes one.  Remember from whence we have come!
>>
>> Numbers....the din is deafening!
>>
>> Lee - K0WA
>>
>>
>>   In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you
>> don't
>> have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't
>> find any
>> Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is
>> Common
>> Sense divine?
>>
>> Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my
>> mind.
>> -  J. Wolf
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