[Elecraft] Give us a network interface

[Bob Naumann]

USB and serial port virtualization has the same issues (drivers, software
incompatibility, etc.) as with USB to RS232 adapters.

Net gain = zip.

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[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jack Brabham
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:11 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Give us a network interface

  Not to mention that Ethernet has a nasty habit of creating RFI, at least
in my experience.

Now on the other hand native USB might be a simple and useful upgrade from
serial, and with the appropriate driver could appear as a "virtual" 
serial port to existing software.

73 Jack KZ5A
K3 #4165







On 8/29/2010 8:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>   >  Sure, many of these software programs do not support network
>   >  connections yet, but we need the hardware to support it first.
>   >  Once the hardware supports it, the software designers will be
>   >  quick to add it.
>
> I seriously doubt that.  Most software writers tend to support a 
> common feature set for all transceivers.  Unless they are writing 
> transceiver specific 'remote operation' or 'soft front panel'
> applications, they will continue to write to a serial interface - 
> whether it is implemented as a standard serial port or a USB to serial 
> converter - and support set/get for frequency and mode because that's 
> what is available in the 10s of thousands of transceivers already in 
> user hands.
>
> The Omni VII has a true network interface ... do you see ANY of the 
> major software packages supporting the full feature set of the Omni 
> VII via Ethernet?  No, the only software to take full advantage of the 
> Omni VII capability is TenTec's own package.
>
>   >  Once more I will make my plea for a network interface in the K3
>   >  and now the P3.
>
> In addition to the lack of usefulness with third party software, this 
> is a bad idea in general.  It would generally require a separate 
> controller (or much larger controller) and would add significant 
> complexity and cost with no corresponding benefit for the overwhelming 
> majority of users.
>
> The K3 provides a rich (although sometimes cumbersome) interface for 
> external control.  If you want a network level interface, the 
> Programmer's Guide provides enough information that you can build your 
> own.
>
> 73,
>
>      ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 8/29/2010 8:18 AM, Ken Nicely wrote:
>> Once more I will make my plea for a network interface in the K3 and 
>> now the P3.
>>
>> I, like others, have had issues getting the serial communications
working.
>>    I understand that setting up a network device is a little more 
>> complicated than a serial device, but it would eliminate all the 
>> issues introduced by having to run custom software (LP Bridge) to 
>> communicate between more than one software application and the K3 or 
>> P3.  It would also eliminate the need to communicate through the P3 to
talk to the K3.
>>
>> Please give us a network port on the K3 and P3.  This would allow 
>> each program to independently communicate with both the K3 and P3, 
>> greatly simplifying the communication between the software and the 
>> rig.  Sure, many of these software programs do not support network 
>> connections yet, but we need the hardware to support it first.  Once 
>> the hardware supports it, the software designers will be quick to add it.
>>
>> Ken Nicely KE3C
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