[Elecraft] K3 and USB Audio Codec
Dr. Werner Furlan
furlan at gmx.net
Tue Aug 17 02:21:12 EDT 2010
hi Joe,
I am a bit late for a reply, but anyway.
The way the codec is implemented is (as far I understand it) different and
more straitforward. There is no "soundcard" in the radio, but the data
stream is directly derived from the IF-DSP.
My friend Gert, OE3ZK described it as follows:
Es wird kein eigener (billig) SoundChip eingesetzt. Die USB Audio CODEC
Aufbereitung erfolgt direkt aus der ZF-DSP der Transceiver. Abgesehen von
den Quarzungenauigkeiten der billig Sound-Chips wird DSP nicht
kaskadiert, das ist der wesentliche Qualitätsunterschied.
I translate:
There is no (cheap) Soundchip in the radio. The USB Audio Codec is
directly created out of the IF-DSP of the transceiver. There are no
inaccuracies of the cheap soundchip quartz and there is no cascading of
DSP's, that is a significant difference in quality.
I have a block diagram of the IC-7200 on my website, you can see it here:
http://oe9fwv.shacknet.nu/oe9fwv/bilder/IC-7200%20USB.jpg
This is an interesting approach in my opinion and has two major
advantages. Better quality of the signal for soundcard modes independent
from external soundcards, no additional cables and devices for mobile use.
A radio and the computer.
Thats all. Remote control included.
73! de Werner OE9FWV
Joe Subich, W4TV-4 [via Elecraft] schrieb am 13 Jul 2010 um 9:17:
>
>
> > I don't trust the quality of an external soundcard of this price.
> > It might be sufficient for PSK31 but probably not for Winmor. The
> > Signalink USB is good, but not for 20 bucks.
>
> The USB Audio CODEC integrated circuit in the IC-7000 or IC-7600 has
> the same specifications as the USB Audio CODEC in Signalink or a $15
> USB headset adapter. There is no benefit to putting audio to digital
> conversion in the radio and bringing the audio out using a driver
> dependent protocol.
>
> An integrated "USB audio CODEC" is nothing more than a gimmick that
> provides no performance benefit while limiting user flexibility/choice,
> increasing cost and decreasing reliability.
>
> If one were going to provide digital output, it would be far better
> to stream the raw in I/Q data from the DSP's ADC via firewire rather
> than push it through two additional A/D and D/A steps and reduce it
> to a single channel of audio.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 7/10/2010 3:48 PM, oe9fwv wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't trust the quality of an external soundcard of this price. It
> might be
> > sufficient for PSK31 but probably not for Winmor. The Signalink USB is
> good,
> > but not for 20 bucks.
> > I have not heard of a problem with the DSP in the IC-7200 or 7600.
> >> From what I have heard this is not a real soundcard but the IF passband
> > after the DSP is sent to the audio codec via USB.
> > It would make it very easy using the K3 for digital soundcard modes
> without
> > another external device.
> >
> > 73! de Werner OE9FWV
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