[Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier

Ken Roberson kwroberson at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 14 14:10:15 EDT 2009


Jim,
This will key the K3 and it will put out whatever power you
have it set for, I set mine for 55 watts.
73 Ken K5DNL

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--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Ken Roberson <kwroberson at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Ken Roberson <kwroberson at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net, jpk5lad at cox.net
> Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 1:07 PM
> Jim,
> Set the K3 to operate CW in SSB mode first.
> Hope this helps
> 73 Ken K5DNL
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/14/09, jpk5lad at cox.net
> <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: jpk5lad at cox.net
> <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu
> Quadra amplifier
> > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:26 AM
> > I'm trying to find the correct
> > sequence of steps to make 
> > sure my new Quadra amplifier is correctly adjusted to
> my 
> > K3.  I have it hooked through the Band-Data1 8-pin
> cable 
> > and the Quadra does change bands correctly as it
> tracks 
> > the K3.  The Quadra also switches to the correctly 
> > programmed input and/or output spigots.  All that is
> > fine.
> > 
> > Taken from the Quadra Operating Manual, "Drive power 
> > must be at least 50 watts for accurate SWR detection,
> 
> > and 70 to 80 watts for optimum tuner performance."
> > 
> > The problem is primarily in keying the K3 properly to
> allow
> > 
> > the Quadra's antenna tuner to adjust properly.  The 
> > Quadra requires 70-80 watts to tune correctly so I
> need to
> > 
> > key the K3 with the TUNE button which puts out 5 watts
> 
> > as it's set up. (I realize that I could reset the
> TUNE
> > output 
> > to start at a higher rate but surely that's not the
> best
> > way)  
> > Otherwise, I must press TUNE, crank the PWR knob from
> 
> > the 5 watts up to 70-80 watts, then press the TUNE
> button 
> > on the Quadra but the amplifier keys for about
> a second 
> > as the tuner starts to tune, then drops out,
> displaying
> > the
> > message "ERROR" on the display.  Now I'm back to 5 
> > watts on the K3 again so after pressing the K3's TUNE
> 
> > button again I must crank on the PWR knob again (which
> 
> > is about 4 full revolutions).  For as many times as I
> try
> > 
> > this, the K3 will not stay keyed up long enough for
> the 
> > Quadra to tune the antenna.  BTW - I don't see any
> error 
> > messages from the K3 during this time.
> > 
> > Using the same amplifier but with my IC-756PRO as a 
> > driver [in RTTY mode at about 70 watts -- with no
> physical
> > 
> > connections for band changing]  it reads the 
> > frequency/band and automatically changes bands and I 
> > can press the Quadra's TUNE button and it tunes up 
> > perfectly.  Quickly, painlessly and correctly -- one
> easy
> > operation which takes, at most, about 5 seconds.
> > 
> > Realizing that all is normal with the Quadra, tuner
> and 
> > antenna I switch the input of the Quadra back to the
> K3 
> > (which changes the PTT, ALC and RF input lines), then
> I 
> > try the K3 TUNE again.  I crank up the PWR knob from
> 5 
> > watts to 70-80 watts, press the Quadra's TUNE button
> but 
> > I see the same thing:  it trys to tune for about a
> second,
> > 
> > then drops back with the "ERROR" message.  The K3
> just 
> > doesn't seem to want to stay in TUNE mode (which is 
> > displaying CW) until the amplifier tuner can complete
> its 
> > job. [It's not because it got tuned up properly with
> the 
> > PRO as the Quadra will always reinitiate a tune when
> so 
> > instructed with the TUNE button]  
> > 
> > I've read everything I can find on hooking up the
> Quadra, 
> > both to the K3 and to other transceivers.  There's
> LOTS of
> > 
> > excellent documentation out there and I appreciate all
> the
> > 
> > work from those folks.  I'm relatively sure that my
> > hookup 
> > between the two is fine.
> > 
> > I guess what I'm asking is -- What are the steps used
> by 
> > other K3/Quadra users to change a band and make sure 
> > the Quadra's tuner is properly tuned.   What am I
> missing
> > 
> > to keep the K3 transmitting until the Quadra can
> complete 
> > its tune operation?  It's just so easy with the PRO
> and so
> > 
> > hard with the K3, but perhaps it's something I'm 
> > overlooking or doing incorrectly (<-- major
> > possibility)
> > 
> > BTW - The Quadra will memorize the tuning positions
> for 
> > various frequencies for different antennas so I guess
> I 
> > could let the IC-756PRO to do all the set up but I'm
> trying
> > 
> > to wean myself away from the 756PRO and do everything
> 
> > on my K3.  The K3 shines in SO MANY places, it just 
> > should be able to be easy here too.
> > 
> > Also, last week on the 
> > YAESUQUADRA at yahoogroups.com,
> > a fellow presented 
> > a wonderful document listing, for someone else, on the
> 
> > steps to tune up the Quadra to a couple of different
> > transceivers.  It looked so neat and I thought it was
> 
> > exactly what I needed.  Unfortunately, it did not
> work for
> > 
> > my K3/Quadra combination............. rats!
> > 
> > Sorry for the long note but is there any hope for
> me? 
> > ....... 
> > let me re-phrase that ---- is there any HELP for me?
> > 
> > Thanks and 73,
> > Jim - K5LAD
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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