[Elecraft] K3 1750Hz roger beep

[juergen piezo]

Hi Gary

Actually the worst audio I have heard is from your new VK 10 WATT hams. They either seem to be running ESSB or CB type audio with all knobs to the right! I know its tough working DX with 10 watts however that does not excuse poor operating practice.

I find it amazing that your authorities who deem these stations to be learners. Yet at the same time the law allows them to transmit ESSB by doing mods to their radios?  This should be illegal for beginners.

 I wonder why your authorities think that its ok  for a station that knows nothing  about transmitters, and then allows them to removed SSB filters and transmit SSB in 6khz? This is stupid to say the least. Here in Europe most countries have 2.7khz SSB bandwidth limit. If I was running 10 watts the last thing I would be doing is using ESSB to work DX.

I could probably work most of these 10 watt stations on 7mhz SSB if they did not run ESSB. But it seems to be a thing that the new hams seems to love in VK?

I wish some of these 10 watt stations would share some of their antenna engineering skills with the ham community. I have never heard so many loud 10 watt stations. Even in the hey day of 10 watt licenses in Japan during the peak of the solar cycle they were never so loud! When a station can work you long path on 7mhz with 10 watts and a dipole at 10 meters with a S9 signal you take notice Hi

John

--- On Tue, 10/6/09, rfenabled at gmail.com <rfenabled at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: rfenabled at gmail.com <rfenabled at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 1750Hz roger beep
> To: "Elecraft" <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:59 PM
> Hi,
> 
> (Snip)
> 
> 1) redesign this as for Roger-Beeb (at the end of transmit)
> for any 
> voice mode (FM, SSB) - maybe with some tone to choose
> (sometimes CW 
> "K" on higher wpm used also)
> (End Snip)
> 
> PLEASE do NOT do this.
> 
> Many operators in VK hate this CBer type of operating.
> 
> A lot of us refuse to acknowledge a TX with a roger beep of
> any kind, even in a contest.
> 
> Don't try and tell me it helps, it doesn't. It just adds to
> the noise.
> 
> A group of us have written to the regulator in Australia
> and have asked for a ruling to make it illegal to TX a roger
> beep tone and we have received word from them that a ruling
> is being considered.
> 
> If successful, we will petition the FCC to do likewise.
> 
> Working weak signals, the roger beeps are distracting and
> not helpful.
> 
> As for our friends in the EU who contest, you do not need a
> roger beep, but you could work on cleaning up your audio as
> some of the worst audio I have heard on the bands lately is
> coming from badly set up audio out of some stations in
> the  EU in the contest.
> 
> BTW, 10/15M was rocking into VK this last weekend.
> 
> 73's
> Gary
> VK4WT/P and NO roger beep or lid behaviour
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra
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