[Elecraft] My "Attitude"

David Wilburn dave.wilburn at verizon.net
Sat May 9 14:58:05 EDT 2009


Agreed.  It is funny.  If you go back and look at very old articles in 
QST, you will find that each generation of hams states how much easier 
the ones that came behind have it.  Its human nature.

The other piece of the puzzle is the difference between book learning, 
and applying something that has been learned.  It is all well and good 
to understand ohm's law, but quite different to apply that.

Which is why it is a, "License to Learn".

This is where Elmering, and sharing make all the difference.  Many 
aspects of society have changed that impacts this.  But clubs, 
reflectors, newsletters and websites help share experience.  Hopefully 
those trying to learn have someone near by to help, to show how it 
works, and explain things.

That is one of the greatest parts of this reflector.  Wandering off 
topic and learning from someone else's experience.  Thanks to all for 
sharing and helping.  73 and have a good weekend.

Dave Wilburn
NM4M

Doug wrote:
> I think some of you "old timers" are missing the point of generational
> changes. I agree that there is no excuse for laziness however, times have
> changed in the world of technologies. You "old timers" were able to make a
> respectable livelihood at circuit/component level designing, testing and
> repairing. This is what the electronic/consumer market was all about. When
> software started coming into the picture you labeled it firmware, left it
> alone and gave it to the dork stuck in the corner to deal with because it
> wasn't hardware. And, you stated that his firmware was pointless because it
> couldn't do anything without your hardware. Well...if you haven't figured it
> out yet...times have changed.
> 
> Now how many of you "old timers" could successfully write a line of software
> code (outside of "hello world") let alone a full-on application? How many of
> you "old timers" could derive a filtering algorithm and translate it into a
> software routine? Do I call you lazy or dumb because most of you can't?
> No...I wouldn't dream of it because that technology wasn't from your era. 
> 
> I agree with Brendan's last comment that the answer here is to help. But
> help is a two way street as well. Many "old timers" label some of the
> digital modes mainly PSK as "No Code Extra mode". Is it really? Can any of
> you old timers really explain how it works? Or do you just dismiss it
> because it isn't CW or write it off because you don't see any RLC networks?
> If you do your homework...these digital modes are far more complex to derive
> than CW ever was. 
> 
> So we have a clash of generational changes in both technology and people.
> Can we say one is better than the other? Nope, I don't think we can. Can we
> be happy that new members are joining the ranks? Well I am very happy. Do we
> owe it to ourselves to provide mentoring? I think we do. And just
> maybe...that idiot that couldn't explain what inductance is because all he
> has to do is push a button labeled "tune" will be the guy to fix a
> computing, networking problem on that new radio 10 years from now that is
> pure software defined because that isn't your cup of tea. 
> 
> K0ZU/Doug
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Minish
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:56 AM
> To: JIM DAVIS
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My "Attitude"
> 
> JIM DAVIS wrote:
> 
>> There's nothing wrong with your "attitude" !  In fact I agree with it
> completely, as it seems
>> that the people that are getting into the hobby recently really don't know
> how to fully utilize
>> their equipment nor their antenna arrays.
> 
> What amateur radio needs is more people who have been in the hobby a 
> while to freely share their knowledge with others. we all started in 
> radio with limited knowledge and learned along the way.
> 
> Regardless of any thoughts some may have on current exams standards we 
> owe it to ourselves and the hobby we get so much pleasure from to help 
> newcomers to gain a better understanding of Amateur radio.
> 
> 73
> Brendan EI6IZ
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