[Elecraft] K3 Squelch

[David Woolley (E.L)]

The article that was claimed to be unreadable was a top posted article 
quoting a top posted article.  Top posting was not an issue here.  The 
actual issue, was that, at least in the digest, a number of articles 
were posted with Content-Type: text/plain headers, but containing 
invalid HTML, which, on any reasonably compliant email program display 
as raw HTML.

However Don's real issue seems to have been with people who fail to trim 
properly.  Top posting almost guarantees that people will fail to prune, 
  which is one of the reasons why the digests are so large. If you have 
to exit after each email or terminate reading by deleting, top postings 
hides this problem.  If you are reading the digest, or have an email 
reader that pages across message boundaries, failure to prune forces one 
to wade through the whole back thread and, particular in digests, can 
make it difficult to find the next thread.  IE's attach original mode is 
even worse, as Thunderbird displays the attached message as though it 
were an independent article, so one has to look very carefully to find 
the next real article.

Incidentally, I consider email posted with only HTML to be a strong spam 
indicator and all postings with HTML variants to be newbie indicators. 
They also contribute to the high number of bytes on this list.

For once, I am  deliberately posting this badly, quoting the entire back 
thread including footers added by the reflector.  Unfortunately, as I'm 
replying from a MIME digest, I can't add a copy of the footers added on 
the way out to me.

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> Top posting is the requested method on the Elecraft list for exactly the reasons Don gives below.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Eric  WA6HHQ
> Elecraft List Moderator
> _..._
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
> Date: Monday, Mar 23, 2009 7:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch
> To: gdaught6 at stanford.edu
> CC: elecraft at mailman.qth.netReply-To: don at w3fpr.com
> 
> I agree - If I do not find something relevant in the first few lines of 
> the post, I usually delete it.
> If you can surmise from that comment that *top posting* is important to 
> me on an email reflector with as much traffic as we have here, then you 
> are correct - I just don't have the available time nor patience to 
> scroll down through a posting to find what has been added.  By the same 
> token, in-line additions may sometimes be warranted, but I believe that 
> should be the exception.
> The "netiquite' stuff may be important in other discussions, but for 
> what we are dealing with here, top posting is my preference.  Note that 
> Eric says either is OK, so I am expressing my personal opinion.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> gdaught6 at stanford.edu wrote:
>  Folks,
> 
>> I find the following unreadable.  Is it just me?  I suggest sending your posts in plain 
>  text!
> 
>>   
>> <br>for PBT on CW, and separate volume controls for SPOT and sidetone
>> <br>near the top as well?--please??
>> <br><br>73, Gary W7TEA
>> <br><br><br><blockquote class="quote light-black dark-border-color"><div class="quote light-border-color">
>> <div class="quote-author" style="font-weight: bold;">wayne burdick wrote:</div>
>> <div class="quote-message shrinkable-quote">All-mode squelch is near the top of our firmware list.
>> <br><br>Wayne
>> <br>N6KR
>> <br><br>On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
>> <br><br>&gt; I've tried to set the squelch on both of my K3's following the
>> <br>&gt; instructions in the manual and display, but cannot make them work....
>> <br><br><br>---
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>> 73,
> 
>> George T Daughters, K6GT
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