Gotta hand it to Tom, N0SS, for putting it in clearer symbols. Anyway, he made this: http://w7brs.com/n0ss+ant.pdf That's what I got going on. And, after all the email it seems clear what's happening. Thanks all. -jeff -- Jeff Wandling DE W7BRS K3 #2105 http://w7brs.com/k3 k3user at w7brs.com