[Elecraft] Illogical coding

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> In a related vein, the "improvement" introduced in version 
> 1.87/1.69 still gets me once in a while. Previously, a single 
> tap of the A->B button copied frequency, mode and filter 
> settings from VFO A to VFO B. Starting with 1.87, two taps 
> are needed - the first to copy the frequency, and another to 
> copy mode and filter settings.

I agree with Bob.  The "tap dance" for split is very prone to 
error.  I can't think of any other transceiver that requires 
two presses of the A->B button to store both mode and frequency.  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Cunnings
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:17 AM
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Illogical coding
> 
> 
> In a related vein, the "improvement" introduced in version 
> 1.87/1.69 still gets me once in a while. Previously, a single 
> tap of the A->B button copied frequency, mode and filter 
> settings from VFO A to VFO B. Starting with 1.87, two taps 
> are needed - the first to copy the frequency, and another to 
> copy mode and filter settings. The result can be the same as 
> in your case if I go split but forget to tap A->B twice. No 
> rationale was given for the change, but from a ergonomics 
> standpoint I never understood why the most common use case 
> was complicated in this way.
> 
> Bob NW8L
> 
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Robert Ansell 
> <robert-ansell at msn.com> wrote:
> > Hi All, I recently had to replace the front panel on my SN 1401 K3 
> > because of a blank display. This just arrived today with the latest 
> > software/firmware dated 9/9/08. All went smoothly and now I can see 
> > the display as it should be. I went through all the cal and setup 
> > routines and all was perfect. I was turning my attention to 
> the bands 
> > and was looking to snag a new country on cw. I noticed that the 
> > station was listening up in frequency so I engaged a split on VFO B 
> > and set the frequency and tried to call but no action out 
> of my key. I 
> > looked at the display and discovered that I was no longer 
> in QSK only 
> > VOX so I hit the QSK button and VFO B came back and said N/A in the 
> > screen! I tried several times to engage QSK but no way was 
> I going to 
> > get the K3 to key. Going back to XIT I was able to snag 
> that guy but 
> > here is where it gets interesting. I called Elecraft and asked what 
> > was going on and Scott had no Idea but asked me what 
> version of manual 
> > I had and discovered that I had an old version C that was 
> over a year 
> > old! I downloaded the newest version of the manual and much to my 
> > surprise there was a note that is not in the earlier 
> version about B 
> > SET that indicated it could be set up in a different mode! 
> Sure enough 
> > that VFO had been set up for SSB and that was why I could 
> not key the 
> > radio. Why on earth if you are in CW on VFO A and press split would 
> > you ever expect that  VFO B would ever default to anything 
> but CW on 
> > VFO B!!! This in my opinion is completely illogical. Can anyone out 
> > there give me an explanation why I should be wrong on this 
> account? I 
> > might have been upset if I didn't go back to XIT to solve 
> the problem 
> > but I can just see in a contest situation where someone was 
> unaware of 
> > this that sparks wouldn't fly. What say you guys!
> >
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