[Elecraft] K3 Keying - minority opinion?

[Jim Cox]

Wasted effort as far as I am concerned....

  Jim K4JAF
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Regan" <ae6gc at sbcglobal.net>
To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Keying - minority opinion?


>
>
> Wayne (and Gary)
>
> I hope you and Gary will reconsider adding Ultimatic/Single Lever Paddle
> support to the K3 internal keyer.  I think that more than Don, Dave and
> myself would welcome that addition to the K3.
>
> The elegance of the K3, a rig that rivals and even surpasses many of the
> very high end radios, is diminished by the need to use an external keyer 
> to
> use a mode that many find invaluable. Removing the need to add another 
> piece
> of gear to the table top is not a minor inconvenience.  The small size of
> the K3 seems to be an attempt to make it convenient for field/portable use
> and to then require another piece of gear to make it work seems to 
> diminish
> its attempt to reach that goal.
>
> Jack, AE6GC, KX1 1403, K3 1433
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
> M0XDF
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 11:20 AM
> To: wayne burdick
> Cc: w3fpr at arrl.net; Elecraft Reflector; DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying - minority opinion?
>
> I have to say I'm hoping that by the time it matters to me, Elecraft
> will have implemented Ultimatic, otherwise I can see myself buying a
> WKUSB or K12-EXT and fitting it into the K3 somewhere.
>
> I realise that your're busy Wayne and this is probably quite a way
> down on your list, but please consider implementing Ultimatic, perhaps
> in place of Iambic if you have space issues and can give people the
> choice at f/w upgrade time?
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
> -- 
> Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe.
> -Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)
>
> On 6 Sep 2008, at 14:33, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> All is well that Iambic B meets your needs, but it is not for
>> everyone, even though we may be the minority.  I need either a
>> single lever paddle with an Iambic only keyer or Ultimatic mode and
>> a dual lever paddle to send decent CW.
>> The problem with dual paddles is that I squeeze too often and end up
>> generating garbage.  And that nasty Iambic B mode sends out the
>> 'extraneous' extra element at the end!
>> Ultimatic mode makes sense to my mind - I close the dash paddle and
>> out comes dashes, close the dot paddle and out comes dots.  The last
>> paddle activated gets priority.  It allows the insertion of one or
>> more dots (dashes) in a string of dashes (dots) as well.  It makes
>> sense to my mind - the paddle that I close last is what is produced.
>>
>> I know there are not many users of this mode today, mainly because
>> the popularity and convenience of the Curtis keyer chip and a few
>> others encouraged the world to Iambic long ago.  Ultimatic was the
>> original keyer mode and was the main thing available back in the
>> '50s and '60s.  It is just more natural to me than those alternating
>> dots and dashes.
>>
>> Those who must do 'slap' keying or must use a single lever paddle
>> with an Iambic keyer might want to try Ultimatic mode - it is
>> available in some of the K1EL keyers (the K12 is one) as well as
>> several others (but no internal keyers that I am aware of).
>>
>>
>> Ultimatic users 'stand up' and request that it be added to the K3
>> internal keyer!  Wayne did give a strong 'maybe' when I asked.
>
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