[Elecraft] CW rise time mod
AJSOENKE at aol.com
AJSOENKE at aol.com
Mon Mar 31 23:16:15 EST 2008
It's not that 3ms is a lot of time in terms of human scale. But, it is the
rise time of an electronic pulse. This can have a lot of impact on the
transient waveform that results in an audio demodulator - i.e. receiver. The
difference is noticeable enough to make the difference in a crowded band weak signal
situation when the receiving station is differentiating what he hears. That's
why a banjo sounds different than a guitar or violin.
Al WA6VNN
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In a message dated 3/29/2008 5:34:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
reiserj at optonline.net writes:
People,
8 ms.- 5 ms.= 3 ms., does it matter in any practical sense? I would really
like to know who cares, and why? Can anyone hear the difference?
Three-thousanths of a second? Not my old brain.
73,
John, W2GW
K3 #384
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lyle Johnson" <kk7p at wavecable.com>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod
>> Or do Rev A RF boards have a lower value for C222 than that shown on the
>> schematic?
>
> Early production K3 RF boards have a 1 uF capacitor instead of a 0.1 uF
> capacitor installed at C222. Yes, the published schematics show a 0.1 uF
> capacitor. The effect of the larger capacitor is to increase the TX
> waveform rise time to about 8 ms instead of 5 ms.
>
> Rev B RF boards have the correct 0.1 uF value installed. Sometime during
> Rev A RF board production, the value installed on the board was changed
> from 1 uF to 0.1 uF.
>
> Surface mount ceramic capacitors are not marked with a value, so you
> cannot tell which you have by visual inspection.
>
> You can determine if you have a 1 uF rather than a 0.1 uF by:
>
> 1) Measuring the capacitance if you have a capacitance meter.
>
> 2) Looking at the Tx output RF envelope on an oscilloscope or "station
> monitor" scope. If the fall time and the rise time look very similar in
> duration, you have the 0.1 uF cap. If the rise time is about 50% longer
> than the fall time, you have the 1 uF capacitor. You don't need an
> oscilloscope with an accurate time base to make this comparative
> measurement. If your oscilloscope has a low bandwidth (2 to 10 MHz), use
> the 160 meter band.
>
> 3) If you are concerned that your unit may have the 1 uF capacitor and you
> have no way to determine it otherwise, you can just replace it with the
> 0.1 uF part and sleep better at night :-)
>
> If you don't change it, you will not damage anything. Your K3 will just
> have slightly softer keying and an upcoming firmware adjustment of the
> keying time will be less accurate.
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
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