[Elecraft] K2 - signal loss in band-pass filter

Are LB3SA LB3SA at norlogic.no
Tue Jun 3 12:11:57 EDT 2008


Thanks to both for info and assistance. You were right Don about the
'weirdness' when injecting signals by C7.

It turns out that the sensitivity issue was caused by a tiny solder bridge
on the SMD MC1350 (IF amp) which I found by injecting a signal @ IF freq.
before and after the IF Amp.

The receiver is now working very nice with an IMD of -136db. The filter/BFO
set-up went without a hitch and RX sounds like a million bucks with
absolutely no signs of ringing with tight filtering.

Are - LB3SA

KX1# 1864
K2# 6498
K3: Delivery late July


Don Wilhelm wrote:
> 
> Are,
> 
> The 'wierd' symptoms you report could be normal depending on the output 
> characteristics of your signal generator.  The capacitors C7 and C8 in 
> the 40 meter bandpass form a voltage divider that is intended to match 
> the high impedance of the filter parallel tuned circuits down to a lower 
> impedance level. If a signal is arbitrary injected at the top end of C7, 
> there can (and likely will) be more voltage developed across the filter 
> than if the same signal voltage is injected at the junction of C7 and C8 
> (a similar argument applies to the other bands).  Put RFC7 and W6 back 
> in place to give the proper termination for the filter.
> 
> A valid comparison is to compare the signal at the junction of C7 and C8 
> with the signal at the junction of C4 and C5.  That would give an 
> indication of the loss through the bandpass filter.  That comparison is 
> more easily done in transmit than receive (the filter is bi-lateral).  
> Compare the RF voltage at the junction of D6 and D7 with the RF voltage 
> at W6 using a transmit power level of 1 to 2 watts.
> 
> If the bandpass filter is not indicating a substantial loss, then you 
> may have some other problem in the receive path.
> 
> If your bandpass filter does show a substantial loss, try re-peaking it 
> first, and if that does not produce adequate results, then look for an 
> impedance mismatch at the filter terminations - check R36 and R5 first 
> for proper values and good soldering.
> 
> There are many other places other than the bandpass filter that can 
> cause weak receive.  If your K2 develops full output power on all bands, 
> then the bandpass filter is likely not the problem area.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 

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