[Elecraft] OT: ISP problems

[Brett Howard]

If you're storing stuff on an in-house server then you are your own email
provider and if you are having problems with spam blocking software causing
you problems then the fault lies close by...  (you can at least reach the
party to be blamed with a baseball bat).  Most companies with more than 10
employees are their own mail provider.  You're NOT your own ISP though
unless you're selling bandwidth to others.

You don't HAVE to access gmail accounts via a web interface they can be
accessed by web IMAP or POP3.  Both are SSL encrypted connections to these
services so the data is not traversing the network in plain text.  You can
access a gmail account from Outlook, an internet browser, or ANYTHING that
will talk to either a POP3 or IMAP server and can handle doing it over a
secure connection.  

Personally I have my own domain hosted on gmail's servers.  I end up with a
very simple interface to create accounts as the administrator and can create
up to 100 email accounts on my own domain that I personally own without
paying a dime beyond the registration fee on a domain.  Google provides
mail, calendar access, and all their spam filtering (which is quality stuff)
for free.  Or if you want to run it yourself you can usually find a company
that will run your mail through their filtering for $15 a month.  Barracuda
makes some very quality mail filtering products and then you can configure
your server to only accept mail from your filtering provider.  This helps
clean things up too.

Anyway I feel I've already wasted enough bandwidth of Elecraft's but just
wanted to dispel some of the myths about Gmail being nothing but a web based
email service.  It's a full email service with secure connectivity and free
hosting services if needed/wanted.

~Brett (KC7OTG)

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Kane
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:56 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: ISP problems

On 7/10/2008 3:33 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

> I don't know why anyone bothers with ISP mailboxes and local PC mail 
> clients any more. I moved all my work and personal email addresses to
> Gmail accounts
> 
> I now use Google Docs for spreadsheeting and letter writing, we've 
> moved the office accounts to a web-based system (WinWeb) and I have 
> converted several of my websites to a content management system that 
> I can edit online, again from any computer, anywhere.

Congratulations.  You have now succeeded in regressing back to the
dumb-terminal-and mainframe days of the 1980s, albeit with a more
sophisticated terminal.

Our firm cannot do that because we insist on all stuff being stored on our
in-house machines (or through a VPN) because of the sensitive nature of
our clients' data - yes, we are our own ISP and mailserver.  Couple to
the fact that I am not comfortable with web/browser-based mail...
personal preference - I've tried it.

I still run my ham stuff - including the K2 applications - from a
separate PC.  Works for me.
-- 
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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