[Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB

[T. David Yarnes]

Folks, I think you are being a bit unfair to Windy.  The guy 
wants to establish a K3 user's group.  What's wrong with 
that?  Perhaps his announcement was a bit "cavalier", but I 
took it to be an attempt at humor (i.e. saying brasspounders 
should get a life, etc.).  I have no idea who Windy is, or 
whether he can successfully organize a net that 
substantively holds my interest.  I'm not even sure I'll 
participate.  But I'm not going to assume on the front end 
that his motives are ulterior or inappropriate.  At least 
he's trying to show a little initiative!

Now, I am assuming Windy intended this to be a net where 
there was actually some substantitive discussion about the 
K3--it's pluses and minuses, operating issues, etc.  Maybe 
it would be a chance for others to put their K3 on the air 
and get on-the-air advice about your setup.  If that's the 
case, I can understand why he preferred not to confuse 
things with other Elecraft rigs.  They are different, and 
have many different issues.  But if it's just going to be a 
"check in and say howdy" type net, with no dedication to 
substantive discussion of the rig itself, then I agree that 
there isn't much justification to exclusions.

But I also got the impression that you didn't have to have a 
K3 to check in, he just wanted the topic to be about the K3. 
I would further assume it would be an excellent opportunity 
for non-K3 owners to ask questions about the K3, or even 
about comparisions with other rigs--there just needs to be 
some nexus to K3's.

There are all sorts of reflectors, etc. that deal with 
specific rigs.  There are also some groups that deal with 
brand names, not just specific models.  I think those all 
have their individual purposes.  If someone just wants to 
have a generic Elecraft net, go ahead and establish one! 
Kevin has a fine CW net like this, although there is not 
much discussion about the various rigs that goes on during 
that net.  So if you want to do this on SSB, I think that's 
fine.

I just don't understand why folks go off half-cocked because 
someone wants to do something with a specific purpose. 
Windy apparently wants to talk about K3's.  There is a lot 
to talk about, you will have to admit that.  If you have a 
K3, want a K3, or are just interested in K3's, you would 
presumably be welcome to participate.  I don't see a thing 
"elitist" about it, and I think he has clarified that in 
subsequent follow-up posts.  I suppose if you think making 
the topic that narrow would not fill up the time allowed, it 
would be appropriate to point that out as your opinion.  But 
since he is the one setting it up, I think it's his 
privilege to establish the agenda.  I can certainly see how 
making the "agenda" too broad could be a distraction.  He's 
simply inviting anyone else with a similar interest to 
participate.  If your interest is broader than that, it 
probably is appropriate to find, or establish, a different 
venue.  But for crying out loud, don't shoot the guy just 
because it doesn't meet your goals.  You can certainly offer 
your suggestions, but don't throw spears at him!  That's 
just plain negative thinking.  Personally, I choose to 
assume his intentions are innocent and honorable.  If his 
idea is a "bust", he will find out soon enough.  People 
won't show up for the party.

Dave W7AQK



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk>
To: "Windy Dankoff" <km5q at mac.com>
Cc: "Crafters" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB


>I have a K3, but unlikely I'll be able to reach you guys 
>yet.
>
> But I totally disagree with this K3 only stance, so I 
> won't even bother.
>
> This should be a net for all Elecrafters - ok, that's 
> going to be just K2 &
> K3 until the K1 gets SSB or the K4 comes out.
>
>
>
> On 29/02/2008 05:12, "Windy Dankoff" <km5q at mac.com> sent:
>
>> Gus,
>>
>> I wrote on my announcement:  "If you have non-K3 Elecraft 
>> topics,
>> check in. If your discussion goes off-topic, move to a 
>> nearby
>> frequency."
>>
>> So YES, K2'ers please check in. If our K3 net is active, 
>> simply move
>> off to a nearby frequency. Once you have established your 
>> frequency,
>> announce your own net!!
>>
>> But, do stop in and visit some time  :-)
>>
>> Windy
>> KM5Q
>
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