[Elecraft] KXV3: (1) RX ANT signal level during TX; (2) spectra at buffered IF output

Stewart Baker stewart at baker.nildram.co.uk
Mon Feb 4 03:31:09 EST 2008


Wayne,
Thank you for your very comprehensive mail, it certainly has put 
my mind at rest re potential issues involving separate receive 
antennas into the K3.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:42:19 -0800, wayne burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'll address both of these issues.
>
> 1. RX ANT input signal handling during TX
>
> The KXV3's ANT IN jack includes a carrier-operated relay circuit 
(COR).
> If the COR kicks in too soon, they relay will switch off/on 
during
> keying. So its threshold is set high. It will still serve its 
primary
> function, which is to protect the transceiver when unsafe signal 
levels
> are present, such as when the RX antenna is in the near field of 
a KW
> transmit signal, or when a transmitter is accidentally connected 
to
> this port.
>
> This leaves a gray zone where the COR doesn't kick in, but the 
transmit
> signal may still be very high. High-power contest stations 
sometimes
> use additional external T/R switching if they can't avoid the 
use of
> closely-coupled receive and transmit antennas.
>
> We recently to a close look at this gray zone, and found that we 
could
> make an "RX ANT jack on steroids" by adding two more diode 
isolation
> sections. The resulting parts count is considerably higher, but 
we feel
> that the added protection during transmit would be worthwhile. 
So this
> change will be included in production units (once we use up our 
present
> supply of assembled KXV3 modules).
>
> Meanwhile, if your antenna configuration and power level warrant 
this
> higher degree of isolation, and you already have a KXV3, you can 
modify
> it. We're designing a small add-on board to make this easier. It 
will
> be supplied free of charge, on request.
>
> This unit has not yet been assigned an Elecraft part number, and 
isn't
> available yet, so PLEASE don't request it until we announce the
> details.
>
> 2. Buffered I.F. output spectra
>
> The pick-off point for the K3's buffered I.F. output -- right at 
the
> output of the 1st mixer's post-amp stage -- was selected to give 
the
> widest possible bandwidth. Thus there is no filtering of any 
kind from
> here to the BNC jack on the KXV3. This creates the opportunity 
to do
> *very* wide spectral sweeps, if required -- limited only by the
> bandwidth of the K3's band-pass filters.
>
> As some (armed with spectrum analyzers) have noted, this output 
signal
> includes the usual spectra one would expect from a high-level 
mixer.
> (And it *is* a very high-level mixer.)
>
> A mixer's output includes a broad range of products relating to 
the sum
> and difference of its inputs (RF and LO). It also includes 
products
> derived from harmonics of the sum and difference, etc. 
Collectively,
> these will appear as a "comb" pattern on an analyzer. This is 
why the
> mixer must be followed by band-pass filtering. (In transmit mode 
this
> function is performed by the K3's narrow ham-band band-pass 
filters; in
> receive mode, by the I.F. crystal filter and DSP filtering.)
>
> But the buffered I.F. output is at a different point in the 
signal
> chain. So any filtering needed for a panadapter must be included 
either
> in the panadapter itself, or in series with it. Some panadapters 
will
> require no filtering at all, while some will need various 
degress of
> L-C filtering (the L-C filter used on our I.F. noise blanker is 
a good
> starting point).
>
> If you were only interested in a narrow band sweep, you could 
use a
> ceramic or crystal filter. Our FM crystal filter, at about 13 
kHz wide,
> would be a good choice here.
>
> Excellent shielding should be used, and possibly additional 
buffering,
> to prevent re-radiation of 8.215 MHz back into the K3.
>
> A related topic is the exact frequency of the buffered I.F. 
output. It
> is nominally 8.215 MHz with our 8-pole filters, and typically 
0.8 to
> 0.9 kHz lower with our 5-pole filters. In addition, the portion 
of this
> passband actually present at the audio output is determined by 
the DSP
> controls (SHIFT, WIDTH, etc.). We can work with panadapter 
suppliers to
> provide this data via the RS232 port, and of course any future 
Elecraft
> panadapter would also have this information available.
>
> I'll be adding this subject to the Owner's Manual. If you're
> interfacing a panadapter to the K3 and have any further 
questions, feel
> free to e-mail me directly.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
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