dBi or dBd? If dBi not impressive. My 20m antenna produces 19 dBi and it´s by no means IMO very big, just a 5 over 5 yagi stack. 73 Jim SM2EKM ------------------- Phil Kane wrote: > The 17 dB gain of a rhombic is hard to beat. All the > commercial HF point-to-point stations used them, as did a lot