Doug, I agree. Perhaps it's as simple as we all think the format we've learned is the "best". In the end it makes little difference. There would be little reason for me to learn a new method only to save a few slight finger movements. And I'm a serious contester where "time spent" counts. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP k0pp at arrl.net or k0pp at acninc.net