[Elecraft] Shortened w3edp

[Thom LaCosta]

I have gotten confused again about the w3edp antenna.

Some things say it's somewhere bewteen 84 to 89 feet long with a 17 foot
counterpoise....one post said it's a total of 84 feet, and of that 17 feet are 
counterpoise.....the g3ycc website says 84 feet long and different lengths
of counterpoise based on band and then there are folks like myself that
used 85 feet with 1/4 wave counterpoises for all bands worked.

I can no longer avail myself of a convenient telephone pole across the street 
from the front of my house....and in the back I have very little space.

So, if one were to attempt to make a short w3edp, what might the length of the 
radiator and the counterpoise be?

I remember seeing a post about various lengths that would make effective 
non-resonat end fed wires....but I can't find it

Thanks

Thom

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