Paul - VE1DY wrote: > http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/ppike/kxb3080.html You can tell why Elecraft prefer the "no wires" design approach, can't you? :-) -- "Nosey" Nick Waterman, G7RZQ, K2 #5209. use Std::Disclaimer; sig at noseynick.net An engineer is someone who does list processing in Fortran.