The Ten-Tec and Icom equipment I own use this same "standard" Rich, KE0X . I don't know if this is a standard but its what the K2 calls 'normal' Thanks Tom WB2QDG K2 1103 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006