[Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?]

[Jim Wiley]

OK Mike, I'll bite.  Since the reference was to 75 meter operation, just 
how did these guys get their licenses then?  Are you suggesting fraud in 
the examination process?  That is a very serious charge, and you need to 
be able to prove it.   Yes, there have been some irregularities, and as 
far as I know, each and every one has been dealt with by Riley and 
crew.   Licenses have been denied or cancelled, usually as the result of 
failure to respond to a directive that the applicant appear for 
retesting. From what Riley says,  exam fraud is not at all common, he 
rarely encounters more than 2 or 3 instances per year, more often  
none.  There have been a couple of instances where large groups were 
involved, but they have been resolved.   


Are you aware of something that isn't known elsewhere?  I suggest that 
if you are, you let Riley Hollingsworth know immediately.  His email is: 
rholling at fcc.gov.  


I happen to run a pretty good size VEC operation (Anchorage ARC VEC, 
Inc.), and I can assure you that every VEC organization takes their job 
very seriously.   Interestingly enough,  in those very rare cases where 
some funny business has taken place, as far as I can determine it has 
always been the people in charge of the particular VEC themselves who 
have brought the problem to the attention of the FCC.  They are as 
interested in getting rid of "bad apples" as anyone. 


Since this subject is "off topic" for this list, perhaps after one last 
exchange here,  it would be better if we continued this thread off the 
reflector.


- Jim, KL7CC


Mike Morrow wrote: 

This is definitely **not** a certainty, since the VEC process took over 
the operator licensng exam process.

Mike  /  KK5F