Thanks Vic, I'll look it over. If nothing else, it would be a great backup antenna when the winds rip the other one down! 73, Julius n2wn I built a ferrite loop antenna for 160, and it is much quieter than my inverted L. See <http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ferriteloop/ferriteloop.html> ...at least, look in a few minutes -- QSL.net appears to be down right now!