[Elecraft] Posting rejection and other facts of life

[Julian, G4ILO]

John and others who replied.

In many years of Internet use, both professionally and in my hobby, I 
have never had a mailing list posting rejected as spam, except on this 
server that Elecraft is using. I know about spam-blocking technology. 
Deciding whether a post is spam or not based on some arbitrary list of 
words that the server owner doesn't like is a brain-dead method that has 
almost completely fallen out of use because it is not reliable. I am in 
business and could not tolerate communications from my customers being 
bounced in this mammer. By trivialising my complaint as one person's 
tantrum, you wilfully ignore the more important issue that I was trying 
to bring to the group's attention.

You selectively quoted my posting to omit the point I made about the 
frustration someone would feel if his urgent plea for help with a 
building problem was rejected in this manner. Whether or not Elecraft 
makes any guarantees about the performance of the list, it is the 
principal form of getting support for most of its customers, and I would 
suggest that there would be many fewer Elecraft kit builders (especially 
from outside the U. S.) without it.

The periodic requests for an alternative Elecraft forum come from people 
with a genuine desire to be able to participate in an interactive 
discussion about the Elecraft issues that concern them without their 
mailbox filling up with postings that are of no interest to them (which 
for some, unfortunately, will include this one.) Their wishes have been 
repeatedly ignored. Although others have tried to start Elecraft forums 
using more sophisticated software, or have offered to do so, their 
efforts are doomed to failure whilst this relector with all of its 
acknowledged shortcomings remains the only one that receives official 
Elecraft endorsement and participation. The Elecraft archives, while 
excellent as far as they go, provide no way to reply or post to the 
list, and are therefore no real alternative to a proper online forum.

73,

-- 
Julian, G4ILO (RSGB, ARRL)
G4ILO's Shack: http://www.tech-pro.net/g4ilo

john.brewer at us.schneider-electric.com wrote:

Wow!

With all due respect, it sounds like it's a good time to take a walk 
around the block.

I don't think Elecraft ever said anything about guaranteeing the 
performance of the mailing
list, or that there's any obligation for them to even READ the mailing 
list. I think pounding
ones shoe on the table because one posting didn't show up, is a 
completely unreasonable
justification for starting another mailing list (which assureadly will 
have the exact same
chance of rejecting a posting) and certainly not something Elecraft is
responsible for.

 >I dare say my comment is no great loss to the group, but perhaps there
 >is some merit in the idea of setting up an alternative list, after all.

Because of a missing posting? You've got to be kidding.

Respectfully,

John K5MO