> >Check the Key Jack...it's possible it's shorted, if not follow the circuit >from there back to where it key's the radio....should be simple to find. Tnx greg, i checked out the key jack first , both lines are ok... 13k & 85k ... and U6 @ pin 29 reads 85K.. which , to me looks ok, not 'taken to gnd' by the circuit from the jack... i was thinking I somehow programmed something to cause it ???? bill At