[Elecraft] my ISP sucks

[David A. Belsley]

Well, at the risk of jinxing things, I am replying to the reflector 
with thanks to Alan Biocca, Alan WB6ZQZ, and Dan Barker, all of whom 
noted the lack of quotes on the name.  In principle, this should make 
no difference.  I never noticed it because my e-mail client strips the 
quotes from the header.  The headers from the two clients look just the 
same.  So I hope I'm back in business without having to open up a 
second client just to post to the reflector.  I'm not sure why the name 
is not accepted without quotes; there are many others whose posts go 
through fine who do not have quotes.  Oh well (which seems to be my 
increasingly standard reaction to much of life these days.)

thanks again all,

dave belsley, w1euy


On Nov 28, 2003, at 12:08 PM, Alan Biocca wrote:

> Dave:
>
> Well, if you like, send me a message from both mailers, and I'll 
> inspect the headers. Indicate in the body which works and which 
> doesn't.
>
> We run Mailman at work, so I might learn something useful.
>
> -- Alan
>
>
> At 08:56 AM 11/28/2003, you wrote:
>> It appears to be mailman.  But I haven't been able to get them to 
>> respond to any questions.
>>
>> best wishes,
>>
>> dave, w1euy
>>
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2003, at 10:53 AM, Alan Biocca wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Dave.
>>>
>>> Is it Mailman that is complaining, or some other program runnong on 
>>> which host??
>>>
>>> -- Alan WB6ZQZ
>>>
>>>
>>> At 07:03 AM 11/28/2003, you wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the comments, Alan.  Unfortunately, the From lines are 
>>>> the same from both clients.  Also, the Return To lines can be made 
>>>> the same.  But none of that seems to make any difference.  So far 
>>>> no one has been able to see what the difference is -- except the 
>>>> spam filter.
>>>>
>>>> best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> dave belsley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 28, 2003, at 4:39 AM, Alan WB6ZQZ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The reflector here appears to be looking at the 'From:" line.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Eudora here, and I have it set up with different 
>>>>> 'personalities' which, among other things, can have different 
>>>>> 'From" lines. If I use the wrong personality when replying, the 
>>>>> reflector denies the message. Wit these personalities I can appear 
>>>>> to be coming from my old ISP, my new ISP, or ARRL.net, at least as 
>>>>> far as the reflector is concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not uncommon among reflectors that attempt to limit spam 
>>>>> to the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Compare "From" lines between the different email clients and see 
>>>>> what you can find. Also check 'Reply-to" lines. If you don't get 
>>>>> enough control over the content of those lines consider using an 
>>>>> email client that gives you better control.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Alan WB6ZQZ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 01:03 AM 11/28/2003, dave belsley, w1euy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>   I too have had a similar problem.  I switched machines and am 
>>>>>> using a new
>>>>>> e-mail client.  Messages sent to the reflector from this client 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> apparently treated as spam. ... I am currently using another
>>>>>> e-mail client from the same machine, and its messages appear to 
>>>>>> go through.
>>>>>> I surely would love an explanation of and solution for the 
>>>>>> phenomenon.  ...  As far as I know, it is only the Elecraft 
>>>>>> reflector that
>>>>>> responds to my messages this way ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>
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