How about ONE contesting event per year with competitive juices, scoring etc, and ONE ragchewing event per year with no scoring? Nobody [except Eric] wanted to ragchew with me in the EQP, as there were points to be made. Gotta rush! -- Eric Manning VA7DZ VE3DPV K2 #2561 "Pauline" If God intended you to use SSB, He wouldn't have given you a fist. Or two lungs.