And my K2/100 puts out about 0.13 Horsepower "wide open". Maybe that'll dispel the "rock crusher" sound of "100 watts" to the QRP ops. Everything's relative, even if we wished some of them weren't relatives... <G> Ron AC7AC K2 # 1289 It might also be helpful to point out that a K1will put out upwards of 0.0067 Horsepower. Lou W7DZN