> So I use a PAC-12 vertical. Supposedly in a shoot-out it > was only 1 db below a 1/4 wave vertical with a good ground > plane. I built my own but the creator has started selling them > commercially for US$85 for one band. Oops! That should be US$65 for the PAC-12 with one band. -- Thomas M. Beaudry k8la / ys1ztm K2 # 3422