Phil sez: "it's like looking for a needle in a haystack with these = diagrams" "These diagrams" are also available in PDF Format. Get them from the web = - Don't do any debigging without them! = (http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K2manRevC.pdf) Set the magmification to = 200% - 400% and "FIND" 8R. You'll see everywhere the line pops up. Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456