>I need to be convinced that the Elecraft K2 is better than both the >FT100d and FT817??? If you need convincing you won't appreciate the K2... If you are into CW there is no comparison, the K2 is where you need to be. I have a TS570DG along side my K2, it's no contest. A loaned IC706 MKII(G) lasted 10 minutes. 73's Dave, G4AON K2 #1892