From radiojoe_k8om at msn.com Fri Jul 1 09:09:19 2016 From: radiojoe_k8om at msn.com (JOE) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:09:19 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] June Shack-of-the-Month and other stuff Message-ID: G'day fellow EIDXA members, Were you able to figure out who the owner of the June "Shack-of-the-Month" is? Drum roll please...... It's WR0U - Scott Augsburger of Mount Pleasant, Iowa. What a beautiful station and antennas! The old gear sure looks nice and brings back some great memories of operating similar equipment. If you would like to have your station spotlighted in an upcoming Shack-of-the-Month on the EIDXA website, please send me a few pictures and we'll get them posted. You don't have to have a gazillion dollar station or towers that are marked on FAA maps to participate. Actually, we would all like to see pictures of our newer members stations that are just getting their feet wet in working DX and contesting so please keep those pictures coming. If you haven't done so, please go to the club website (EIDXA.ORG) and take the EIDXA Survey. I think you will have fun doing so and it is proving to be quite informative. The results will be presented at the July 29 meeting so you still have time to participate. Craig - K0CF has done a wonderful job of posting the latest DX news in an easy to read format to help us all keep up to date on the latest DX activity on the bands. The latest EIDXA club newsletter is also available on the website. I don't know about you but I sure get a kick out of reading the newsletter that Jerry - WW0E publishes for us! Please take adavantage of our website..... it is a great resource. Don't forget about our next club meeting on July 29. Details can be found on the EIDXA website. Roger Hoffman - N4RR will be providing the program on his recent participation in the VP8STI / VP8SGI DXpeditions and this is one you definitely don't want to miss. We have a busy agenda since we didn't have a regular business meeting in April so please attend the meeting and help us take care of some fairly urgent club business matter. So until then..... have fun, stay safe, work some DX !! 73, Joe - K8OM From marty.santic at gmail.com Wed Jul 6 17:32:20 2016 From: marty.santic at gmail.com (Marty Santic) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:32:20 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] AES - Closing Message-ID: http://cqnewsroom.blogspot.com/2016/07/amateur-electronic-supply-aes-going-out.html?spref=tw&m=1 -- Marty Santic ----- W9EAA - EAA Chapter 75 Newsletter Editor - RV-12 N128MS (Flying) From ww0e at q.com Wed Jul 6 17:34:04 2016 From: ww0e at q.com (Jerry Rappel) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 17:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [EIDXA] Ham store closing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1234243427.257866.1467840844072.JavaMail.root@md17.quartz.synacor.com> Anyone else hear this? Amateur Electronic Supply is closing at the end of the month. 2nd biggest ham dealer in the country. -- Jerry WW?E From ku0a at mchsi.com Sun Jul 10 13:46:44 2016 From: ku0a at mchsi.com (Nelson Moyer) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:46:44 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 Message-ID: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has been badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide whether or not to upgrade. Nelson, KU0A From jhetrick at bitjanitor.net Sun Jul 10 14:05:12 2016 From: jhetrick at bitjanitor.net (Joe Hetrick) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:05:12 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20160710180512.GB26977@homer> There is no free lunch. My advice is to very carefully read and add salt to the systems requirements for 10 and compare those to your system. No direct experience with hamware on 10, however, I have had several family systems come to me that were a great deal less usable with 10 than they were with 7. Personally, I feel it should be avoided given the way that Microsoft has botched the rollout. The aren't worthy of much trust in my opinion. VKN On 10 Jul 12:46, Nelson Moyer wrote: > I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has been > badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to > Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on > Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, > DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a > Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide whether > or not to upgrade. > > > > Nelson, KU0A > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From rick.hadley at gmail.com Sun Jul 10 14:47:14 2016 From: rick.hadley at gmail.com (Rick Hadley) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:47:14 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <20160710180512.GB26977@homer> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <20160710180512.GB26977@homer> Message-ID: Nelson, I have no direct experience with the programs you named, but I've been running Win 10 for a year with my Flex. The only problems we have encountered have been with major Windows updates sometimes messing up the com & digital audio port assignments. I've found by making sure none of those programs are running when I do the update things work fine. I've not found any of my other programs on any of my 3 Win10 computers to have any problems whatsoever, and 10 has been at least as stable as 7, maybe more so. You may want to check some of the user-support forms for your particular programs and see what other users have experienced. Rick, W0FG On Sunday, July 10, 2016, Joe Hetrick wrote: > There is no free lunch. > > My advice is to very carefully read and add salt to the systems > requirements for 10 and compare those to your system. > > No direct experience with hamware on 10, however, I have had several > family systems come to me that were a great deal less usable with 10 than > they were with 7. > > Personally, I feel it should be avoided given the way that Microsoft has > botched the rollout. The aren't worthy of much trust in my opinion. > > > VKN > > On 10 Jul 12:46, Nelson Moyer wrote: > > I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has > been > > badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to > > Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on > > Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, > > DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a > > Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide > whether > > or not to upgrade. > > > > > > > > Nelson, KU0A > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > EIDXA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From k0is at iowatelecom.net Sun Jul 10 14:50:49 2016 From: k0is at iowatelecom.net (Larry Albrecht) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:50:49 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <002001d1dadb$fa6633f0$ef329bd0$@iowatelecom.net> Good point, Nelson, very good point, and I don't have time to be fooling with it if it doesn't work with my ham or any other software either. Once again, MS forces themselves on the public. I am a firm believer that you don't need the latest and the greatest of everything......that's exactly what they've buffaloed most of the public into believing. I am also a firm believer in the old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" motto. I also have been getting the little reminders from MS and found it pretty annoying a long time ago. Enjoy the hobby and good DXing to you. Larry K0IS -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:47 PM To: EIDXA at qth.net Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has been badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide whether or not to upgrade. Nelson, KU0A ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From k0is at iowatelecom.net Sun Jul 10 14:52:21 2016 From: k0is at iowatelecom.net (Larry Albrecht) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:52:21 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <20160710180512.GB26977@homer> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <20160710180512.GB26977@homer> Message-ID: <002101d1dadc$31530640$93f912c0$@iowatelecom.net> You pretty much hit it on the head, Joe. I agree completely and will continue running Windows 7 in the shack here.....why change what works? -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Hetrick Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 1:05 PM To: Nelson Moyer Cc: EIDXA at qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 There is no free lunch. My advice is to very carefully read and add salt to the systems requirements for 10 and compare those to your system. No direct experience with hamware on 10, however, I have had several family systems come to me that were a great deal less usable with 10 than they were with 7. Personally, I feel it should be avoided given the way that Microsoft has botched the rollout. The aren't worthy of much trust in my opinion. VKN On 10 Jul 12:46, Nelson Moyer wrote: > I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has > been badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows > 7 to Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not > work on Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, > DXPWin 3.0, DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with > these programs in a Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of > the month to decide whether or not to upgrade. > > > > Nelson, KU0A > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From marty.santic at gmail.com Sun Jul 10 15:46:32 2016 From: marty.santic at gmail.com (Marty Santic) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 14:46:32 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <002101d1dadc$31530640$93f912c0$@iowatelecom.net> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <20160710180512.GB26977@homer> <002101d1dadc$31530640$93f912c0$@iowatelecom.net> Message-ID: To ensure Windows DOES NOT load Windows 10 on its own, without your permission, follow the instructions here..... http://askbobrankin.com/is_microsoft_forcing_windows_10_on_you.html On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Larry Albrecht wrote: > You pretty much hit it on the head, Joe. I agree completely and will > continue running Windows 7 in the shack here.....why change what works? > > -----Original Message----- > From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe > Hetrick > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 1:05 PM > To: Nelson Moyer > Cc: EIDXA at qth.net > Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 > > There is no free lunch. > > My advice is to very carefully read and add salt to the systems > requirements > for 10 and compare those to your system. > > No direct experience with hamware on 10, however, I have had several family > systems come to me that were a great deal less usable with 10 than they > were > with 7. > > Personally, I feel it should be avoided given the way that Microsoft has > botched the rollout. The aren't worthy of much trust in my opinion. > > > VKN > > On 10 Jul 12:46, Nelson Moyer wrote: > > I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has > > been badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows > > 7 to Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not > > work on Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, > > DXPWin 3.0, DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with > > these programs in a Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of > > the month to decide whether or not to upgrade. > > > > > > > > Nelson, KU0A > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > EIDXA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Marty Santic ----- W9EAA - EAA Chapter 75 Newsletter Editor - RV-12 N128MS (Flying) From K0VM at arrl.net Sun Jul 10 16:58:23 2016 From: K0VM at arrl.net (Al) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:58:23 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> Nelson, I have been running win10 on my PC's Win10 was first available and have found it very stable with the programs that I run. 1) I have no direct expericane with any of the programs you wish to run. 2) Problems that I have seen reported with win10 and ham programs generally been related to a) Older hardware (MB, video, comports ) may not have drivers that fully support Win10 b) Win10 does not allow any user data to be written anywhere to the C:\program files folder so older programs will likely have to be installed somewhere else ( which generally works out ok. ) c) Comports and sound device may be enumerated in a differently than you have your software configured. Plan on re-configuring ports after you upgrade. 3) Most ham programs that have recent updates will work fine and many older programs can be made to work if reinstalled. 4) Most Win10 upgrades do allow you to rollback to the previous OS if win10 does not work. Or make a disk image before you do the upgrade. 5) save your valuable data somewhere else, just in case. AL, K0VM On 7/10/2016 12:46 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote: > I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has been > badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to > Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on > Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, > DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a > Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide whether > or not to upgrade. > > > > Nelson, KU0A > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From Jim at SpencerHills.com Sun Jul 10 17:38:22 2016 From: Jim at SpencerHills.com (Jim Spencer) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:38:22 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> Message-ID: I've been getting along just fine with four older, 2 years plus, Windows 7 computers. I'm not doing anything very fancy and most of my software is old--like Office 2003. What are the advantages for me in switching to Windows 10? I'm wondering what offsets the risks of my old computers, printers and software not working. I know Dell says one of my notebook computers cannot be updated to Windows 10 because they are not going to supply the drivers! I hate to be the only kid on the block with Windows 7 but I still remember the problems I had switching from XP to Windows 7. Is anyone else sticking with 7? 73, Jim W?SR -----Original Message----- From: Al Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:58 PM To: eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 Nelson, I have been running win10 on my PC's Win10 was first available and have found it very stable with the programs that I run. 1) I have no direct expericane with any of the programs you wish to run. 2) Problems that I have seen reported with win10 and ham programs generally been related to a) Older hardware (MB, video, comports ) may not have drivers that fully support Win10 b) Win10 does not allow any user data to be written anywhere to the C:\program files folder so older programs will likely have to be installed somewhere else ( which generally works out ok. ) c) Comports and sound device may be enumerated in a differently than you have your software configured. Plan on re-configuring ports after you upgrade. 3) Most ham programs that have recent updates will work fine and many older programs can be made to work if reinstalled. 4) Most Win10 upgrades do allow you to rollback to the previous OS if win10 does not work. Or make a disk image before you do the upgrade. 5) save your valuable data somewhere else, just in case. AL, K0VM On 7/10/2016 12:46 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote: > I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has been > badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to > Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on > Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, > DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a > Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide > whether > or not to upgrade. > > > > Nelson, KU0A > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From Jim at SpencerHills.com Sun Jul 10 20:13:11 2016 From: Jim at SpencerHills.com (Jim Spencer) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:13:11 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> <16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <065963AD3A4143DE96C5A589072BD1E8@JimHP> Hi Jon, Years ago some of us thought freedom in our computer choices was the most important thing and we hitched our wagons to this little outfit up in Washington called Microsoft. Over the years I've questioned the wisdom of that decision many times but I've never been willing to make the leap except for buying an iPad a few years ago. Windows probably should have been called "walls" or "gates" because the early freedom was mostly illusion! Now, be smug! 73, Jim W?SR -----Original Message----- From: Jon Klinkefus Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:19 PM To: Jim Spencer Cc: eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 What's Windows? > On Jul 10, 2016, at 16:38, Jim Spencer wrote: > > I've been getting along just fine with four older, 2 years plus, Windows 7 > computers. I'm not doing anything very fancy and most of my software is > old--like Office 2003. What are the advantages for me in switching to > Windows 10? I'm wondering what offsets the risks of my old computers, > printers and software not working. I know Dell says one of my notebook > computers cannot be updated to Windows 10 because they are not going to > supply the drivers! > > I hate to be the only kid on the block with Windows 7 but I still remember > the problems I had switching from XP to Windows 7. > > Is anyone else sticking with 7? > > 73, Jim W?SR > > -----Original Message----- From: Al > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:58 PM > To: eidxa at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 > > Nelson, > I have been running win10 on my PC's Win10 was first available and > have found it very stable with the programs that I run. > 1) I have no direct expericane with any of the programs you wish to run. > 2) Problems that I have seen reported with win10 and ham programs > generally been related to > a) Older hardware (MB, video, comports ) may not have drivers that > fully support Win10 > b) Win10 does not allow any user data to be written anywhere to the > C:\program files folder so older programs will likely have to be > installed somewhere else ( which generally works out ok. ) > c) Comports and sound device may be enumerated in a differently than > you have your software configured. Plan on re-configuring ports after > you upgrade. > 3) Most ham programs that have recent updates will work fine and many > older programs can be made to work if reinstalled. > 4) Most Win10 upgrades do allow you to rollback to the previous OS if > win10 does not work. Or make a disk image before you do the upgrade. > 5) save your valuable data somewhere else, just in case. > > > AL, K0VM > > >> On 7/10/2016 12:46 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote: >> I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has >> been >> badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to >> Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on >> Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, >> DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a >> Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide >> whether >> or not to upgrade. >> >> >> >> Nelson, KU0A >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> EIDXA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From theklink at gmail.com Sun Jul 10 19:19:11 2016 From: theklink at gmail.com (Jon Klinkefus) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:19:11 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> Message-ID: <16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com> What's Windows? > On Jul 10, 2016, at 16:38, Jim Spencer wrote: > > I've been getting along just fine with four older, 2 years plus, Windows 7 computers. I'm not doing anything very fancy and most of my software is old--like Office 2003. What are the advantages for me in switching to Windows 10? I'm wondering what offsets the risks of my old computers, printers and software not working. I know Dell says one of my notebook computers cannot be updated to Windows 10 because they are not going to supply the drivers! > > I hate to be the only kid on the block with Windows 7 but I still remember the problems I had switching from XP to Windows 7. > > Is anyone else sticking with 7? > > 73, Jim W?SR > > -----Original Message----- From: Al > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:58 PM > To: eidxa at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 > > Nelson, > I have been running win10 on my PC's Win10 was first available and > have found it very stable with the programs that I run. > 1) I have no direct expericane with any of the programs you wish to run. > 2) Problems that I have seen reported with win10 and ham programs > generally been related to > a) Older hardware (MB, video, comports ) may not have drivers that > fully support Win10 > b) Win10 does not allow any user data to be written anywhere to the > C:\program files folder so older programs will likely have to be > installed somewhere else ( which generally works out ok. ) > c) Comports and sound device may be enumerated in a differently than > you have your software configured. Plan on re-configuring ports after > you upgrade. > 3) Most ham programs that have recent updates will work fine and many > older programs can be made to work if reinstalled. > 4) Most Win10 upgrades do allow you to rollback to the previous OS if > win10 does not work. Or make a disk image before you do the upgrade. > 5) save your valuable data somewhere else, just in case. > > > AL, K0VM > > >> On 7/10/2016 12:46 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote: >> I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has been >> badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to >> Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on >> Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, >> DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a >> Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide whether >> or not to upgrade. >> >> >> >> Nelson, KU0A >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> EIDXA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From jhetrick at bitjanitor.net Sun Jul 10 20:51:10 2016 From: jhetrick at bitjanitor.net (Joe Hetrick) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:51:10 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <20160710180512.GB26977@homer> Message-ID: <20160711005110.GC26977@homer> That's good to know. I'd expect the vended apps to be mostly OK on 10. The non-ham equivalent software that I've seen have issues are the odd ball, small-player type things. My dad's business PC's were 7, and they've got a lot of oddball estimating/insurance company management software (Autobody shop) that just wasn't ready for the switch. I think in the ham-world, some of the smaller/older stuff that hasn't been updated since XP may have issues, but that'd only be a guess. I think the main turn off was how it was deployed. Marking it a critical update which caused it to auto install for customers was a mistake. They've rectified that now. Anyone happen to have an Elecraft KRC2 that they can report success with under windows 10! Thats my one necessary app for keeping the shack running.. VKN On 10 Jul 13:47, Rick Hadley wrote: > Nelson, > I have no direct experience with the programs you named, but I've been > running Win 10 for a year with my Flex. The only problems we have > encountered have been with major Windows updates sometimes messing up the > com & digital audio port assignments. I've found by making sure none of > those programs are running when I do the update things work fine. I've not > found any of my other programs on any of my 3 Win10 computers to have any > problems whatsoever, and 10 has been at least as stable as 7, maybe more > so. You may want to check some of the user-support forms for your > particular programs and see what other users have experienced. > > Rick, W0FG > > On Sunday, July 10, 2016, Joe Hetrick wrote: > > > There is no free lunch. > > > > My advice is to very carefully read and add salt to the systems > > requirements for 10 and compare those to your system. > > > > No direct experience with hamware on 10, however, I have had several > > family systems come to me that were a great deal less usable with 10 than > > they were with 7. > > > > Personally, I feel it should be avoided given the way that Microsoft has > > botched the rollout. The aren't worthy of much trust in my opinion. > > > > > > VKN > > > > On 10 Jul 12:46, Nelson Moyer wrote: > > > I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has > > been > > > badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to > > > Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on > > > Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, > > > DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a > > > Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide > > whether > > > or not to upgrade. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nelson, KU0A > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > EIDXA mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > > EIDXA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > From krk9840 at msn.com Sun Jul 10 22:19:21 2016 From: krk9840 at msn.com (Dave Wilson) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 21:19:21 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] =?windows-1256?q?CVARC_Hamfest-Inside_Table_Rental_Deadli?= =?windows-1256?b?bmX+?= Message-ID: Just a friendly reminder that a deadline is approaching for rental of tables for the inside flea market at the CVARC Hamfest on August 7, 2016. Tables can be rented for $10 each until July 15th and then increases to $15 each thereafter (subject to availability). To rent an inside table, contact Bob Klaus, N0YWB at (n0ywb1 at gmail.com) or 319 521-1134. Dave Wilson, K0RN Hamfest Chairman From radiojoe_k8om at msn.com Mon Jul 11 07:42:47 2016 From: radiojoe_k8om at msn.com (JOE) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 06:42:47 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] FW: [Membership] 2016 Pleasant Creek Trail Run Volunteer Request In-Reply-To: <94eb2c0b131af3e74e0537543da4@google.com> References: <94eb2c0b131af3e74e0537543da4@google.com> Message-ID: FYI. Anyone want to help out with this event? Thanks, Joe - K8OM Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 04:03:59 +0000 From: k0ecw.ericwatson at gmail.com To: membership at lists.w0gq.org Subject: [Membership] 2016 Pleasant Creek Trail Run Volunteer Request Please complete this form if you can support this event. Disregard if you can't. Thanks, Eric K0ECW.2016 Pleasant Creek Trail RunThe Pleasant Creek Trail Run is Saturday 17 September 2016. There will be a 15k course and there will be 15k, 30k, and 45k races all starting at the same time. The course consists primarily of dirt and grass equestrian trails with rolling hills and a few short water crossings. Funds raised will support the DNR and Pleasant Creek State Park for trail maintenance needs. All races start at 0900. The cutoff for all races will be 1500. This event will take place entirely inside Pleasant Creek State Park. We will use HTs for this event. Ham radio will provide the communications link between the water stops/aid stations and the Race Officials.FILL OUT FORMCreate your own Google Form _______________________________________________ Membership mailing list Membership at lists.w0gq.org http://lists.w0gq.org/listinfo.cgi/membership-w0gq.org -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00001 URL: From w0jmk at arrl.net Mon Jul 11 09:24:08 2016 From: w0jmk at arrl.net (Jon Klinkefus) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 08:24:08 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 Message-ID: HA! 73, Jon W0JMK On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Jim Spencer wrote: > Hi Jon, > > Years ago some of us thought freedom in our computer choices was the most > important thing and we hitched our wagons to this little outfit up in > Washington called Microsoft. Over the years I've questioned the wisdom of > that decision many times but I've never been willing to make the leap > except for buying an iPad a few years ago. Windows probably should have > been called "walls" or "gates" because the early freedom was mostly > illusion! > > Now, be smug! > > 73, Jim W?SR > > -----Original Message----- From: Jon Klinkefus > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:19 PM > To: Jim Spencer > Cc: eidxa at mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 > > What's Windows? > > On Jul 10, 2016, at 16:38, Jim Spencer wrote: >> >> I've been getting along just fine with four older, 2 years plus, Windows >> 7 computers. I'm not doing anything very fancy and most of my software is >> old--like Office 2003. What are the advantages for me in switching to >> Windows 10? I'm wondering what offsets the risks of my old computers, >> printers and software not working. I know Dell says one of my notebook >> computers cannot be updated to Windows 10 because they are not going to >> supply the drivers! >> >> I hate to be the only kid on the block with Windows 7 but I still >> remember the problems I had switching from XP to Windows 7. >> >> Is anyone else sticking with 7? >> >> 73, Jim W?SR >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Al >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:58 PM >> To: eidxa at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 >> >> Nelson, >> I have been running win10 on my PC's Win10 was first available and >> have found it very stable with the programs that I run. >> 1) I have no direct expericane with any of the programs you wish to run. >> 2) Problems that I have seen reported with win10 and ham programs >> generally been related to >> a) Older hardware (MB, video, comports ) may not have drivers that >> fully support Win10 >> b) Win10 does not allow any user data to be written anywhere to the >> C:\program files folder so older programs will likely have to be >> installed somewhere else ( which generally works out ok. ) >> c) Comports and sound device may be enumerated in a differently than >> you have your software configured. Plan on re-configuring ports after >> you upgrade. >> 3) Most ham programs that have recent updates will work fine and many >> older programs can be made to work if reinstalled. >> 4) Most Win10 upgrades do allow you to rollback to the previous OS if >> win10 does not work. Or make a disk image before you do the upgrade. >> 5) save your valuable data somewhere else, just in case. >> >> >> AL, K0VM >> >> >> On 7/10/2016 12:46 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote: >>> I have desktops running WindowsXP, Vista, and System 7. Microsoft has >>> been >>> badgering me for months to install the free upgrade from Windows 7 to >>> Windows 10. My concern is that some of my ham software might not work on >>> Windows 10, e.g. DX Atlas, HamCAP, IonoProbe, W6EL Prop, DXPWin 3.0, >>> DigiPan, etc. Does anyone have direct experience with these programs in a >>> Windows 10 environment? I have until the end of the month to decide >>> whether >>> or not to upgrade. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nelson, KU0A >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> EIDXA mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> EIDXA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> EIDXA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > -- .....The universe was created on Jan 1, 1970. Anyone who tells you otherwise is clearly lying From k4vx at hughes.net Mon Jul 11 19:15:33 2016 From: k4vx at hughes.net (Lew Gordon) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:15:33 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <065963AD3A4143DE96C5A589072BD1E8@JimHP> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> <16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com> <065963AD3A4143DE96C5A589072BD1E8@JimHP> Message-ID: <0015A465-BC7F-42D4-B7B4-77B91E0C5F10@hughes.net> Hi Jim, My first Windows O/S was version 2.xx which operated under MS-DOS. Then came 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95, and everything else to Win 10 which I currently use on my desktop. (I kept Win 7 on my notebook.) Like you I bought an Apple iPad about 6 years ago and recently upgraded to the Pro. As a retired systems engineer I purchased many DOS based engineering programs over the years. I also wrote a number of antenna design programs Yagimax, Taper, and utility programs none of which operate under Windows. Now the only way I can use any of my old programs is to fire up an old 486 DOS machine in the cellar with a 50 MB hard drive, 50 MHz processor, and wait several minutes for the result! That is if it still works! Perhaps I should have gone the Apple route about 30 years ago! Lew Gordon, K4VX > On Jul 10, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Jim Spencer wrote: > > Hi Jon, > > Years ago some of us thought freedom in our computer choices was the most important thing and we hitched our wagons to this little outfit up in Washington called Microsoft. Over the years I've questioned the wisdom of that decision many times but I've never been willing to make the leap except for buying an iPad a few years ago. Windows probably should have been called "walls" or "gates" because the early freedom was mostly illusion! > > Now, be smug! > > 73, Jim From jhetrick at bitjanitor.net Mon Jul 11 19:28:49 2016 From: jhetrick at bitjanitor.net (Joe Hetrick) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:28:49 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <0015A465-BC7F-42D4-B7B4-77B91E0C5F10@hughes.net> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> <16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com> <065963AD3A4143DE96C5A589072BD1E8@JimHP> <0015A465-BC7F-42D4-B7B4-77B91E0C5F10@hughes.net> Message-ID: <20160711232849.GF26977@homer> Linux and Wine! Though, Wine doesn't run everything. About 2 years ago I switched to CQRlog and linux entirely in the shack. Prior to that I ran Linux, but, ran a Windows Virtual Machine for most ham-apps. Most of the lightweight apps will run in Wine, but, the Win Loggers don't play so well, generally. CQRLog is nice, there are a few annoyances, but, it's as solid as the Windows based loggers I used before and it's much easier for me to write code to troll my log for information. Redmondware was never freedom! It was always shackles! The shackles from Cuppertino are just fur lined and fashion forward. VKN On 11 Jul 18:15, Lew Gordon wrote: > Hi Jim, > > My first Windows O/S was version 2.xx which operated under MS-DOS. > Then came 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95, and everything else to Win 10 which I currently > use on my desktop. (I kept Win 7 on my notebook.) Like you I bought an > Apple iPad about 6 years ago and recently upgraded to the Pro. > > As a retired systems engineer I purchased many DOS based engineering > programs over the years. I also wrote a number of antenna design programs > Yagimax, Taper, and utility programs none of which operate under Windows. > Now the only way I can use any of my old programs is to fire up an old > 486 DOS machine in the cellar with a 50 MB hard drive, 50 MHz processor, > and wait several minutes for the result! That is if it still works! > > Perhaps I should have gone the Apple route about 30 years ago! > > Lew Gordon, K4VX > > > On Jul 10, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Jim Spencer wrote: > > > > Hi Jon, > > > > Years ago some of us thought freedom in our computer choices was the most important thing and we hitched our wagons to this little outfit up in Washington called Microsoft. Over the years I've questioned the wisdom of that decision many times but I've never been willing to make the leap except for buying an iPad a few years ago. Windows probably should have been called "walls" or "gates" because the early freedom was mostly illusion! > > > > Now, be smug! > > > > 73, Jim > > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From Jim at SpencerHills.com Tue Jul 12 00:45:44 2016 From: Jim at SpencerHills.com (Jim Spencer) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:45:44 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <0015A465-BC7F-42D4-B7B4-77B91E0C5F10@hughes.net> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com><96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net><16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com><065963AD3A4143DE96C5A589072BD1E8@JimHP> <0015A465-BC7F-42D4-B7B4-77B91E0C5F10@hughes.net> Message-ID: Lew, I remember fondly the good old days of DOS. They are really not that far away. Keep the old computer AND make good notes on how to run the programs! Do you like your iPad Pro? They look nice in the store. 73, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Lew Gordon Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 6:15 PM To: Jim Spencer Cc: eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 Hi Jim, My first Windows O/S was version 2.xx which operated under MS-DOS. Then came 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95, and everything else to Win 10 which I currently use on my desktop. (I kept Win 7 on my notebook.) Like you I bought an Apple iPad about 6 years ago and recently upgraded to the Pro. As a retired systems engineer I purchased many DOS based engineering programs over the years. I also wrote a number of antenna design programs Yagimax, Taper, and utility programs none of which operate under Windows. Now the only way I can use any of my old programs is to fire up an old 486 DOS machine in the cellar with a 50 MB hard drive, 50 MHz processor, and wait several minutes for the result! That is if it still works! Perhaps I should have gone the Apple route about 30 years ago! Lew Gordon, K4VX > On Jul 10, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Jim Spencer wrote: > > Hi Jon, > > Years ago some of us thought freedom in our computer choices was the most > important thing and we hitched our wagons to this little outfit up in > Washington called Microsoft. Over the years I've questioned the wisdom of > that decision many times but I've never been willing to make the leap > except for buying an iPad a few years ago. Windows probably should have > been called "walls" or "gates" because the early freedom was mostly > illusion! > > Now, be smug! > > 73, Jim ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From Jim at SpencerHills.com Tue Jul 12 00:59:14 2016 From: Jim at SpencerHills.com (Jim Spencer) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:59:14 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <20160711232849.GF26977@homer> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> <16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com> <065963AD3A4143DE96C5A589072BD1E8@JimHP> <0015A465-BC7F-42D4-B7B4-77B91E0C5F10@hughes.net> <20160711232849.GF26977@homer> Message-ID: <1BD5C90A2DDE462AB9DF3156D1E7A4E6@JimHP> Joe, In olden times, Microsoft seemed to have the barn doors wide open compared to Apple. You could work on your own hardware and install any program with the PC. When I was younger and less wise, I thought that was great. Now the idea that everything you install will actually work and has been tested to prove it is almost worth the price. I remember going to a Joint Computer Conference in the 70s way back when Apple was showing their first computer. It was strange looking but they had a hell of a booth. I just followed the path of least resistance and never tried to figure out which was best. Collins made a big study of it and determine the PC was the future and I believe that is still true for them. I wasn't going to learn two systems. I've wondered about that decision more than once. Then I look at the available ham software and genealogy software and the MAC is behind. That doesn't mean I couldn't get by and learn something new but so far I haven't. 73, Jim W?SR -----Original Message----- From: Joe Hetrick Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 6:28 PM To: Lew Gordon Cc: Jim Spencer ; eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 Linux and Wine! Though, Wine doesn't run everything. About 2 years ago I switched to CQRlog and linux entirely in the shack. Prior to that I ran Linux, but, ran a Windows Virtual Machine for most ham-apps. Most of the lightweight apps will run in Wine, but, the Win Loggers don't play so well, generally. CQRLog is nice, there are a few annoyances, but, it's as solid as the Windows based loggers I used before and it's much easier for me to write code to troll my log for information. Redmondware was never freedom! It was always shackles! The shackles from Cuppertino are just fur lined and fashion forward. VKN On 11 Jul 18:15, Lew Gordon wrote: > Hi Jim, > > My first Windows O/S was version 2.xx which operated under MS-DOS. > Then came 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95, and everything else to Win 10 which I > currently > use on my desktop. (I kept Win 7 on my notebook.) Like you I bought an > Apple iPad about 6 years ago and recently upgraded to the Pro. > > As a retired systems engineer I purchased many DOS based engineering > programs over the years. I also wrote a number of antenna design programs > Yagimax, Taper, and utility programs none of which operate under Windows. > Now the only way I can use any of my old programs is to fire up an old > 486 DOS machine in the cellar with a 50 MB hard drive, 50 MHz processor, > and wait several minutes for the result! That is if it still works! > > Perhaps I should have gone the Apple route about 30 years ago! > > Lew Gordon, K4VX > > > On Jul 10, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Jim Spencer wrote: > > > > Hi Jon, > > > > Years ago some of us thought freedom in our computer choices was the > > most important thing and we hitched our wagons to this little outfit up > > in Washington called Microsoft. Over the years I've questioned the > > wisdom of that decision many times but I've never been willing to make > > the leap except for buying an iPad a few years ago. Windows probably > > should have been called "walls" or "gates" because the early freedom was > > mostly illusion! > > > > Now, be smug! > > > > 73, Jim > > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From ku0a at mchsi.com Tue Jul 12 09:23:04 2016 From: ku0a at mchsi.com (Nelson Moyer) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:23:04 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <1BD5C90A2DDE462AB9DF3156D1E7A4E6@JimHP> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> <16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com> <065963AD3A4143DE96C5A589072BD1E8@JimHP> <0015A465-BC7F-42D4-B7B4-77B91E0C5F10@hughes.net> <20160711232849.GF26977@homer> <1BD5C90A2DDE462AB9DF3156D1E7A4E6@JimHP> Message-ID: <001c01d1dc40$87ef4e40$97cdeac0$@mchsi.com> Jim, Learning and using two or more systems isn't so bad. My first computer was a Commodore 64 and home, and I was forced to use a DOS PC at work. I used the Commodore at home until the second disk drive failed. I switched to MAC SEs both places when they first came out. I stayed with MACs through the 2700 at work and kept the SE at home. My first Windows experience was Windows 95 at work, and until I retired, I had a 2700 on my desk and a 95 machine on a table beside the desk. I did all of my work processing and graphics work on the MAC, and accessed the lab databases on the PC. I was the only MAC user by the time I retired, and the lab's graphic artist was the only other one. He resigned a year before me, so I was the go to guy for all his files after he left. When I retired, I took my MAC home, and the lab became 100% PC. I got my first home PC (HP Pavilion) with Windows ME when it first came out, but it died after two years (mother board failed), so I bought a Dell with XP. I gradually shifted all computer work to the Dell, and took all my MAC equipment to Goodwill . Ham software was the primary driver for the switch. The results of my Windows 10 survey were seven for and five against. I've decided to keep Windows 7 to avoid the headaches of finding drivers, dealing with com port issues, and besides, I hate the interface introduced with Windows 8. By the time Microsoft stops supporting Windows 7, the next iteration of Windows will undoubtedly be released, and it will be time to buy a faster computer by that time. What really gets me going is the companies (Microtek comes to mind) that refuse to issue software updates for their hardware drivers. My flatbed scanner required XP, and no amount of pleading could get Microtek to issue a Vista driver or anything past XP. So I keep an XP machine on the ham station, a Vista machine for music and video, Windows 7 for everything else, and Windows 10 on my laptop, which is only used on my model railroad and when I travel. I bought my wife an iPad when they first came out, and she gave it to me as a hand-me-down when I upgraded her to the iPad II. Now she has the Plus, and I have the II and the original. My iPads are used sparingly, except for travel. If you think you would use the camera, and you have the original iPad, by all means upgrade. Nelson, KU0A -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Spencer Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 11:59 PM To: Joe Hetrick ; Lew Gordon Cc: eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 Joe, In olden times, Microsoft seemed to have the barn doors wide open compared to Apple. You could work on your own hardware and install any program with the PC. When I was younger and less wise, I thought that was great. Now the idea that everything you install will actually work and has been tested to prove it is almost worth the price. I remember going to a Joint Computer Conference in the 70s way back when Apple was showing their first computer. It was strange looking but they had a hell of a booth. I just followed the path of least resistance and never tried to figure out which was best. Collins made a big study of it and determine the PC was the future and I believe that is still true for them. I wasn't going to learn two systems. I've wondered about that decision more than once. Then I look at the available ham software and genealogy software and the MAC is behind. That doesn't mean I couldn't get by and learn something new but so far I haven't. 73, Jim W?SR From jnmeade at southslope.net Wed Jul 13 08:01:42 2016 From: jnmeade at southslope.net (James Meade) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:01:42 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] FAA Expands Marking SOME Towers Message-ID: The FAA reauthorization bill includes language talking about marking towers between 50 and 200 feet AGL. 200 and greater AGL is already covered. Here is some language from the House version. Look under Safety I think it's 415. Sounds like it doesn't affect most of us. See Exclusions. 73 Jim NO0B "Covered tower defined.? (1) IN GENERAL.?In this section, the term ?covered tower? means a structure that? (A) is self-standing or supported by guy wires and ground anchors; (B) is 6 feet or less in diameter at the base; (C) at the highest point of the structure, is at least 50 feet above ground level; (D) at the highest point of the structure, is not more than 200 feet above ground level; (E) has accessory facilities on which an antenna, sensor, camera, meteorological instrument, or other equipment is mounted; and (F) is located? (i) outside the boundaries of an incorporated city or town; or (ii) on land that is? (I) underdeveloped; or (II) used for agriculture purposes. (2) EXCLUSIONS.?The term ?covered tower? does not include any structure that? (A) is adjacent to a house, barn, electric utility substation, or any other building; (B) is in the curtilage of a farmstead; (C) supports electric utility transmission or distribution lines; (D) is a wind-powered electrical generator with a rotor blade radius that exceeds 6 feet; or (E) is a street light erected or maintained by a Federal, State, or local transportation entity.' Curtilage, for the vocabulary challenged: :) In law, the curtilage of a house or dwelling is the land immediately surrounding it, including any closely associated buildings and structures, but excluding any associated "open fields beyond", and also excluding any closely associated buildings, structures, or divisions that contain the separate intimate activities ... From vjohnson at paulbunyan.net Wed Jul 13 08:26:10 2016 From: vjohnson at paulbunyan.net (Glenn Johnson) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:26:10 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <001c01d1dc40$87ef4e40$97cdeac0$@mchsi.com> References: <000a01d1dad3$07998030$16cc8090$@mchsi.com> <96d1f679-5d46-de32-2c0d-4d9c5a95e9e4@arrl.net> <16FFF7D7-E8DF-48D7-916F-CBD9B1674A0C@gmail.com> <065963AD3A4143DE96C5A589072BD1E8@JimHP> <0015A465-BC7F-42D4-B7B4-77B91E0C5F10@hughes.net> <20160711232849.GF26977@homer> <1BD5C90A2DDE462AB9DF3156D1E7A4E6@JimHP> <001c01d1dc40$87ef4e40$97cdeac0$@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <004101d1dd01$bd6c9250$3845b6f0$@paulbunyan.net> *** By the time Microsoft stops supporting Windows 7, the next iteration of Windows will undoubtedly be released, and it will be time to buy a faster computer by that time. *** I think that is the best advice, Nelson! If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have everything working FB here with Win7. If I had problems of some sort, of course I would be interesting in upgrading. Everyone's mileage varies. 73 Glenn W0GJ -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:23 AM To: EIDXA at qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 Jim, Learning and using two or more systems isn't so bad. My first computer was a Commodore 64 and home, and I was forced to use a DOS PC at work. I used the Commodore at home until the second disk drive failed. I switched to MAC SEs both places when they first came out. I stayed with MACs through the 2700 at work and kept the SE at home. My first Windows experience was Windows 95 at work, and until I retired, I had a 2700 on my desk and a 95 machine on a table beside the desk. I did all of my work processing and graphics work on the MAC, and accessed the lab databases on the PC. I was the only MAC user by the time I retired, and the lab's graphic artist was the only other one. He resigned a year before me, so I was the go to guy for all his files after he left. When I retired, I took my MAC home, and the lab became 100% PC. I got my first home PC (HP Pavilion) with Windows ME when it first came out, but it died after two years (mother board failed), so I bought a Dell with XP. I gradually shifted all computer work to the Dell, and took all my MAC equipment to Goodwill . Ham software was the primary driver for the switch. The results of my Windows 10 survey were seven for and five against. I've decided to keep Windows 7 to avoid the headaches of finding drivers, dealing with com port issues, and besides, I hate the interface introduced with Windows 8. By the time Microsoft stops supporting Windows 7, the next iteration of Windows will undoubtedly be released, and it will be time to buy a faster computer by that time. What really gets me going is the companies (Microtek comes to mind) that refuse to issue software updates for their hardware drivers. My flatbed scanner required XP, and no amount of pleading could get Microtek to issue a Vista driver or anything past XP. So I keep an XP machine on the ham station, a Vista machine for music and video, Windows 7 for everything else, and Windows 10 on my laptop, which is only used on my model railroad and when I travel. I bought my wife an iPad when they first came out, and she gave it to me as a hand-me-down when I upgraded her to the iPad II. Now she has the Plus, and I have the II and the original. My iPads are used sparingly, except for travel. If you think you would use the camera, and you have the original iPad, by all means upgrade. Nelson, KU0A -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Spencer Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 11:59 PM To: Joe Hetrick ; Lew Gordon Cc: eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] Windows 10 Joe, In olden times, Microsoft seemed to have the barn doors wide open compared to Apple. You could work on your own hardware and install any program with the PC. When I was younger and less wise, I thought that was great. Now the idea that everything you install will actually work and has been tested to prove it is almost worth the price. I remember going to a Joint Computer Conference in the 70s way back when Apple was showing their first computer. It was strange looking but they had a hell of a booth. I just followed the path of least resistance and never tried to figure out which was best. Collins made a big study of it and determine the PC was the future and I believe that is still true for them. I wasn't going to learn two systems. I've wondered about that decision more than once. Then I look at the available ham software and genealogy software and the MAC is behind. That doesn't mean I couldn't get by and learn something new but so far I haven't. 73, Jim W?SR ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From jnmeade at southslope.net Wed Jul 13 09:55:08 2016 From: jnmeade at southslope.net (James Meade) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:55:08 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] More on FAA Tower Rules Message-ID: I received a couple of queries so decided to cite the entire bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4441/text Look under Title IV, Safety, Section 415, Towers. "covered" towers mean towers subject to this bill. The FAA addresses a number of tower issues which are treated in other legislation. For example, lighting and marking of towers 200 feet and more AGL are already covered in other laws. AGL means above ground level. Here is all of section 415. Jim NO0B SEC. 415. Marking of towers. (a) In general.?Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall issue regulations for the marking of covered towers. (b) Markings required.?The regulations issued under subsection (a) shall ensure that covered towers are marked in a manner that is uniform, makes the covered towers easily visible, and is consistent with applicable guidance of the Administration. (c) Application.?The regulations issued under subsection (a) shall ensure that? (1) all covered towers constructed on or after the date on which such regulations take effect are marked in accordance with subsection (b); and (2) a covered tower constructed before the date on which such regulations take effect is marked in accordance with subsection (b) not later than 1 year after such effective date. (d) Covered tower defined.? (1) IN GENERAL.?In this section, the term ?covered tower? means a structure that? (A) is self-standing or supported by guy wires and ground anchors; (B) is 6 feet or less in diameter at the base; (C) at the highest point of the structure, is at least 50 feet above ground level; (D) at the highest point of the structure, is not more than 200 feet above ground level; (E) has accessory facilities on which an antenna, sensor, camera, meteorological instrument, or other equipment is mounted; and (F) is located? (i) outside the boundaries of an incorporated city or town; or (ii) on land that is? (I) underdeveloped; or (II) used for agriculture purposes. (2) EXCLUSIONS.?The term ?covered tower? does not include any structure that? (A) is adjacent to a house, barn, electric utility substation, or any other building; (B) is in the curtilage of a farmstead; (C) supports electric utility transmission or distribution lines; (D) is a wind-powered electrical generator with a rotor blade radius that exceeds 6 feet; or (E) is a street light erected or maintained by a Federal, State, or local transportation entity. (e) Covered tower database.?The Administrator shall? (1) develop a publicly available database that contains the location and height of covered towers; (2) keep the database current to the extent practicable; and (3) ensure that proprietary information in the database is protected. From k0is at iowatelecom.net Wed Jul 13 11:49:49 2016 From: k0is at iowatelecom.net (Larry Albrecht) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:49:49 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] FAA Expands Marking SOME Towers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b901d1dd1e$30989b40$91c9d1c0$@iowatelecom.net> Interesting. I should be alright I would think, since the land immediately West of me and in the direction of the nearest airport (approx. 15 miles away) is probably a good 20 feet higher than my property, making my 60 foot tower effectively that much lower in that direction. But then of course, nobody said that our laws have to make any sense. Larry K0IS -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Meade Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 7:02 AM To: eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: [EIDXA] FAA Expands Marking SOME Towers The FAA reauthorization bill includes language talking about marking towers between 50 and 200 feet AGL. 200 and greater AGL is already covered. Here is some language from the House version. Look under Safety I think it's 415. Sounds like it doesn't affect most of us. See Exclusions. 73 Jim NO0B "Covered tower defined.? (1) IN GENERAL.?In this section, the term ?covered tower? means a structure that? (A) is self-standing or supported by guy wires and ground anchors; (B) is 6 feet or less in diameter at the base; (C) at the highest point of the structure, is at least 50 feet above ground level; (D) at the highest point of the structure, is not more than 200 feet above ground level; (E) has accessory facilities on which an antenna, sensor, camera, meteorological instrument, or other equipment is mounted; and (F) is located? (i) outside the boundaries of an incorporated city or town; or (ii) on land that is? (I) underdeveloped; or (II) used for agriculture purposes. (2) EXCLUSIONS.?The term ?covered tower? does not include any structure that? (A) is adjacent to a house, barn, electric utility substation, or any other building; (B) is in the curtilage of a farmstead; (C) supports electric utility transmission or distribution lines; (D) is a wind-powered electrical generator with a rotor blade radius that exceeds 6 feet; or (E) is a street light erected or maintained by a Federal, State, or local transportation entity.' Curtilage, for the vocabulary challenged: :) In law, the curtilage of a house or dwelling is the land immediately surrounding it, including any closely associated buildings and structures, but excluding any associated "open fields beyond", and also excluding any closely associated buildings, structures, or divisions that contain the separate intimate activities ... ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From k0cf at mchsi.com Wed Jul 13 12:11:11 2016 From: k0cf at mchsi.com (K0CF) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:11:11 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] FAA Expands Marking SOME Towers In-Reply-To: <00b901d1dd1e$30989b40$91c9d1c0$@iowatelecom.net> References: <00b901d1dd1e$30989b40$91c9d1c0$@iowatelecom.net> Message-ID: <004201d1dd21$2c709510$8551bf30$@mchsi.com> I believe that the reason for the new regulations is to protect crop dusters. There have been many fatal accidents where a crop duster flew into an unmarked tower, usually in an area where one would not expect a tower to be. That is the reason for excluding towers near other buildings from this regulation. As I recall, many of these towers were temporary meteorological towers and had no markings at all. Craig, K?CF -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry Albrecht Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:50 AM To: 'James Meade' ; eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [EIDXA] FAA Expands Marking SOME Towers Interesting. I should be alright I would think, since the land immediately West of me and in the direction of the nearest airport (approx. 15 miles away) is probably a good 20 feet higher than my property, making my 60 foot tower effectively that much lower in that direction. But then of course, nobody said that our laws have to make any sense. Larry K0IS -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Meade Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 7:02 AM To: eidxa at mailman.qth.net Subject: [EIDXA] FAA Expands Marking SOME Towers The FAA reauthorization bill includes language talking about marking towers between 50 and 200 feet AGL. 200 and greater AGL is already covered. Here is some language from the House version. Look under Safety I think it's 415. Sounds like it doesn't affect most of us. See Exclusions. 73 Jim NO0B "Covered tower defined.? (1) IN GENERAL.?In this section, the term ?covered tower? means a structure that? (A) is self-standing or supported by guy wires and ground anchors; (B) is 6 feet or less in diameter at the base; (C) at the highest point of the structure, is at least 50 feet above ground level; (D) at the highest point of the structure, is not more than 200 feet above ground level; (E) has accessory facilities on which an antenna, sensor, camera, meteorological instrument, or other equipment is mounted; and (F) is located? (i) outside the boundaries of an incorporated city or town; or (ii) on land that is? (I) underdeveloped; or (II) used for agriculture purposes. (2) EXCLUSIONS.?The term ?covered tower? does not include any structure that? (A) is adjacent to a house, barn, electric utility substation, or any other building; (B) is in the curtilage of a farmstead; (C) supports electric utility transmission or distribution lines; (D) is a wind-powered electrical generator with a rotor blade radius that exceeds 6 feet; or (E) is a street light erected or maintained by a Federal, State, or local transportation entity.' Curtilage, for the vocabulary challenged: :) In law, the curtilage of a house or dwelling is the land immediately surrounding it, including any closely associated buildings and structures, but excluding any associated "open fields beyond", and also excluding any closely associated buildings, structures, or divisions that contain the separate intimate activities ... ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From jlscr at mchsi.com Wed Jul 13 16:22:31 2016 From: jlscr at mchsi.com (Jim Spencer) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:22:31 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] China vows to protect South China Sea sovereignty after ruling Message-ID: They don?t realize they are playing with some DX sacred cows! http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-ruling-stakes-idUSKCN0ZS02U From radiojoe_k8om at msn.com Wed Jul 13 20:25:18 2016 From: radiojoe_k8om at msn.com (JOE) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:25:18 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Dinner with Roger Hoffman - N4RR Message-ID: Fellow EIDXA Members, Roger Hoffman - N4RR will be our guest speaker at the July 29 EIDXA meeting. He will be talking about his recent VP8SGI / VP8STI DXpedition experience. This should be an excellent presentation so please plan on attending the meeting on July 29. Additional information can be found on the EIDXA website (http://eidxa.org/Meetings/Meetings.html) Continuing with a club tradition, we are planning on taking the out-of-town guest speaker to dinner the evening of July 29 prior to the meeting. "The Class Act" restaurant (http://www.classactdining.com/home), as the name implies is a fine restaurant located on the Kirkwood campus and operated by the students. The Class Act also serves as a real-time, real-world teaching environment for Kirkwood's Culinary Arts program. I would like to invite all EIDXA club members to join us for dinner with Roger and get better acquainted with him on the 29th. Each member will pay for their own dinner and drinks while EIDXA will treat the guest speaker to dinner. It's the least we can do since he is giving his time and driving a couple hundred miles to give us a first class DXpedition presentation! Since we want to have ample time for dinner and conversation I believe we should plan on dinner reservations for 5 p.m. Please email me and let me know if you will be able to join us for dinner on the 29th. I will need a head count before making reservation a couple of days before the dinner. This should be a great time and I hope you can join us. 73, Joe - K8OMPresident EIDXA From t.cellman at mchsi.com Wed Jul 13 21:59:30 2016 From: t.cellman at mchsi.com (t.cellman at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [EIDXA] HRO picks up AES In-Reply-To: <1537532533.21596574.1468461416382.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <2047825607.21603808.1468461570236.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> Hi Guys Just heard that HRO is taking over the Milwaukee branch store of AES. They will be doing a remodel of the store and reopen at the end of Augest. Nothing was said about what would happen to the other AES stores. de W0AWL From jhetrick at bitjanitor.net Thu Jul 14 07:19:18 2016 From: jhetrick at bitjanitor.net (Joe Hetrick) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 06:19:18 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] China vows to protect South China Sea sovereignty after ruling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160714111918.GI26977@homer> They are expanding and making more DX calves with their mine tailings, though! VKN On 13 Jul 15:22, Jim Spencer wrote: > They don?t realize they are playing with some DX sacred cows! > > http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-ruling-stakes-idUSKCN0ZS02U > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From augsburger at iowatelecom.net Fri Jul 15 17:59:45 2016 From: augsburger at iowatelecom.net (Scott and Lisa Augsburger) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:59:45 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] HRO picks up AES A In-Reply-To: <2047825607.21603808.1468461570236.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> References: <2047825607.21603808.1468461570236.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> Message-ID: I Hope their attitude are better then the HRO store in Denver or they will not stay open very long. Scott wr0u ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "eidxa" Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:59 PM Subject: [EIDXA] HRO picks up AES > > > Hi Guys > > Just heard that HRO is taking over the Milwaukee branch store of AES. > They will be doing a remodel of the store and reopen at the end of > Augest. > Nothing was said about what would happen to the other AES stores. > > de W0AWL > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 13799 (20160713) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 13801 (20160714) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From jlscr2 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 16 01:17:09 2016 From: jlscr2 at yahoo.com (Jim Spencer) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 00:17:09 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] HRO picks up AES A In-Reply-To: References: <2047825607.21603808.1468461570236.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> Message-ID: Scott, I've never dealt with the Denver store but I think the Anaheim store is great. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Scott and Lisa Augsburger Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:59 PM To: t.cellman at mchsi.com ; eidxa Subject: Re: [EIDXA] HRO picks up AES A I Hope their attitude are better then the HRO store in Denver or they will not stay open very long. Scott wr0u ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "eidxa" Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:59 PM Subject: [EIDXA] HRO picks up AES > > > Hi Guys > > Just heard that HRO is taking over the Milwaukee branch store of AES. > They will be doing a remodel of the store and reopen at the end of > Augest. > Nothing was said about what would happen to the other AES stores. > > de W0AWL > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 13799 (20160713) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 13801 (20160714) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From ww0e at q.com Sun Jul 17 09:59:17 2016 From: ww0e at q.com (Jerry Rappel) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [EIDXA] =?utf-8?q?W=C3=98GXA_in_August_QST_-_page_30=2E?= Message-ID: <150738891.386265.1468763957576.JavaMail.root@md17.quartz.synacor.com> Jerry WW?E From radiojoe_k8om at msn.com Sat Jul 23 20:58:56 2016 From: radiojoe_k8om at msn.com (JOE) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:58:56 +0000 Subject: [EIDXA] Last Call - Dinner with Roger Hoffman N4RR Message-ID: This is a follow up to the email I sent out on July 13 inviting EIDXA club members to join us in having dinner with Roger Hoffman - N4RR. As you know, Roger will be providing the July 29 EIDXA meeting program which will be on the recent VP8SGI / VP8STI DXpedition. We will be dinning at "The Class Act" restaurant (http://www.classactdining.com/home), at 5 p.m. As the name implies this is a fine restaurant located on the Kirkwood campus and operated by the students. The Class Act also serves as a real-time, real-world teaching environment for Kirkwood's Culinary Arts program. Each member will pay for their own dinner and drinks while EIDXA will treat the guest speaker to dinner. It's the least we can do since he is giving his time and driving a couple hundred miles to give us a first class DXpedition presentation! Currently we have the following members indicating they will be having dinner with Roger: Joe Hungate - K8OM Glenn Johnson - W0GJ Jim Spencer - W0SR Terry Cellman - W0AWL Jim Meade - NO0B TomVavra - WB8ZRL Jim Livengood - W0NB Sam Burrell - K0AFN There's still time to get your name on the list, but not much. If you would like to join us please drop me an email no later than Monday evening (July 25) so I can make reservations Tuesday. Thanks, Joe - K8OM President EIDXA P.S. I hope the formating of this email doesn't get screwed up and make it too difficult to read. I've noticed some previous emails have had all formatting stripped making it a bit difficult to read. From k4vx at hughes.net Sun Jul 24 12:50:12 2016 From: k4vx at hughes.net (Lew Gordon) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 11:50:12 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] For sale Message-ID: <791A1324-82C2-4C80-B051-11403B791DB9@hughes.net> As I now have the Elecraft K3s, I have decided to keep my older K2-100 as a QRP radio and sell the 100 watt amplifier. My KPA100 was constructed by one of Elecraft's original beta testers, N0SS (SK) whose construction capabilities can be observed by bringing up the pictures for the automatic antenna tuner, KAT2, at www.elecraft.com/manual/E740008%20KAT2%20man%20rev.%20F.pdf The current kit price for the KPA100 is $489.95. I'm asking $250 plus shipping. Hey guys with a K2, life's too short for QRP! (With apologies to Alpha Products.) Lew Gordon, K4VX P.O. Box 105 Hannibal, MO 573-221-7730/573-795-4455. NLT than 6:30 PM please.(Medication) From k4vx at hughes.net Sun Jul 24 12:57:32 2016 From: k4vx at hughes.net (Lew Gordon) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 11:57:32 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] For Sale Message-ID: <8BA6D603-0EDC-47A5-93C9-FA981555908C@hughes.net> Sorry the correct web address is: http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/kat_pics.htm Lew Gordon From rhaendel at q.com Mon Jul 25 17:37:55 2016 From: rhaendel at q.com (Rich Haendel) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:37:55 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] FT4JA QSL card Message-ID: My card came today , very nice, and the envelope is special too !! Rich W3ACO From k0cf at mchsi.com Mon Jul 25 18:21:49 2016 From: k0cf at mchsi.com (K0CF) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 17:21:49 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] FT4JA QSL card In-Reply-To: RnZdbo877znOvRnZgbRaXm References: RnZdbo877znOvRnZgbRaXm Message-ID: <003401d1e6c2$f0395c70$d0ac1550$@mchsi.com> Mine did as well. Very nice to see the EIDXA logo so prominently displayed on the QSL! Craig K?CF -----Original Message----- From: EIDXA [mailto:eidxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rich Haendel Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:38 PM To: EIDXA Reflector Subject: [EIDXA] FT4JA QSL card My card came today , very nice, and the envelope is special too !! Rich W3ACO ____________________________________________________________ __ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From rhaendel at q.com Wed Jul 27 18:58:49 2016 From: rhaendel at q.com (Rich Haendel) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:58:49 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Heard_Island_Expedition_VK=C3=98EK_Repor?= =?utf-8?q?t?= In-Reply-To: <006301d1e84f$ac9659d0$05c30d70$@cordell.org> References: <006301d1e84f$ac9659d0$05c30d70$@cordell.org> Message-ID: <3f10a28e-e560-adda-8427-b9030d6b7d40@q.com> FYI for all to see. Rich W3ACO -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Heard Island Expedition VK?EK Report Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:41:46 -0700 From: Robert Schmieder To: 'Richard Haendel' *To Richard W3ACO and the Members of the Eastern Iowa DX Association (EIDXA):* ** *It gives me great pleasure to provide the EIDXA with the attached report on the Heard Island VK?EK Project. * ** *Please note that this article has been accepted for publication in QST (October 2016), so I call your attention to the footnoted copyright notice on the first page.* ** *The expedition was carried out during March/April, 2016. Many of the results are posted on our website www.heardisland.org and the blogsite https://vk0ek.org, and this article provides details and numerical results of the operation. All of the requested QSL cards have been sent out. * ** *We are currently assembling the broader results of the expedition, which as you know went well beyond the boundaries of a normal (?radio-only?) DXpedition. The scientific and IT activities on the expedition were enabled by a very successful fundraising activity. In particular, we were able to secure considerable support from corporations that provided in-kind contributions (particularly the shelters and the satellite terminals and airtime). As a result we were able to concentrate on the work of the expedition rather than the mechanical task of fundraising, and to implement a variety of innovative services to the DXing community. * ** *Please accept the sincere appreciation of the entire team for the generous support from the EIDXA. I do hope that many of the members were successful in logging a QSO with VK?EK, in spite of the difficult propagation.* ** *Sincerely, and 73,* ** *Bob KK6EK* +++++++++++++++++++++++++ *Cordell Expeditions* *Dr. Robert W. Schmieder* 4295 Walnut Blvd. Walnut Creek, CA 94596 USA +++++++++++++++++++++++++ (925) 934-3735 (voice and fax) schmieder at cordell.org http://www.cordell.org Skype: robert.schmieder3 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** ** From radiojoe_k8om at msn.com Fri Jul 29 13:36:52 2016 From: radiojoe_k8om at msn.com (JOE) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:36:52 +0000 Subject: [EIDXA] Dinner with Roger Hoffman - N4RR Message-ID: Just wanted to remind those that are on the reservation list to have dinner this evening with Roger Hoffman - N4RR that the reservation is for 5 p.m. at "The Class Act" restaurant. The following are currently on the reservation list: Joe Hungate - K8OM Glenn Johnson - W0GJ Rich Mercer - W9YAC Jim Spencer - W0SR (may be late getting there) Jim Meade - NO0B TomVavra - WB8ZRL Jim Livengood - W0NB Sam Burrell - K0AFN Gayle Lawson - K0FLY Rick Heinrich - N0YY If you would like to join us, please let me know ASAP and I'll give the restaurant a call and see if we can get you worked in. A reminder, the EIDXA club meeting will be in Linn Hall room 1142. Doors open at 6:30 p.m. and the meeting starts at 7:30 p.m. Hope to see everyone there! 73, Joe - K8OM From kc0alc at arrl.net Fri Jul 29 11:56:52 2016 From: kc0alc at arrl.net (David Peterson) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 10:56:52 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] Notice of upcoming repeater down time Message-ID: Weather permitting this Saturday (July 30) we will be doing some major work to install some upgraded lightning protection and grounding provisions at the primary receive site for the 2 meter repeaters in Cedar Rapids. Some of the items will require the equipment racks to be turned off and disconnected for extended periods of time so the repeaters will be unavailable for normal use. The 146.745 repeater will be changed to the downtown receive site for the duration of the outage to keep the repeater operational but please remember the range will not be the usual wide coverage area. The 145.150, 147.090 and 145.190 repeaters will be off the air until the work is completed since they do not have any backup or secondary receive sites. Work is expected to take several hours but be complete by mid-afternoon. Over the next few weeks, as time and weather permits, there will be additional outages as we work to install or upgrade various grounding and lightning protection elements at the W0GQ and W0WSV transmitter sites. I will send out similar announcements when that work will be taking place. Thank you, David Peterson, KC0ALC CVARC Station Trustee -- *David Peterson* KC0ALC EN41ew From t.cellman at mchsi.com Fri Jul 29 16:06:23 2016 From: t.cellman at mchsi.com (t.cellman at mchsi.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [EIDXA] Dayton Hamvention news In-Reply-To: <104134247.124367995.1469822736143.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <704421373.124374287.1469822783520.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> de W0AWL Dayton Hamvention? 2017 News Update The Dayton Amateur Radio Association (DARA) regrets to inform our many vendors, visitors and stakeholders that, unfortunately, HARA has announced the closing of their facility. We have begun execution of our contingency plan to move Hamvention? 2017 to a new home. DARA and Hamvention? have enjoyed many successful years working together with HARA Arena and we wish the Wampler family the best. DARA and Hamvention? have been working on a contingency plan in the event HARA would become unavailable. We have spent many hours over the last few years evaluating possible locations and have found one in the area we believe will be a great new home! Due to logistics and timing issues, we will make a formal announcement introducing our new partner. This information will be coming soon. We all believe this new venue will be a spectacular place to hold our beloved event. Please rest assured we will have the event on the same weekend and, since it will be in the region, the current accommodations and outside events already planned for Hamvention 2017 should not be affected. We look forward to your continued support as we move to a new future with The Dayton Hamvention?. Ron Cramer General Chairman Dayton Hamvention 2017 From ww0e at q.com Fri Jul 29 16:28:52 2016 From: ww0e at q.com (Jerry Rappel) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [EIDXA] Dinner with Roger Hoffman - N4RR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1835425725.546520.1469824132694.JavaMail.root@md17.quartz.synacor.com> take some pictures for the newsletter guys. Jerry WW?E -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOE" To: "EIDXA Reflector" , "Roger Hoffman" Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:36:52 PM Subject: [EIDXA] Dinner with Roger Hoffman - N4RR Just wanted to remind those that are on the reservation list to have dinner this evening with Roger Hoffman - N4RR that the reservation is for 5 p.m. at "The Class Act" restaurant. The following are currently on the reservation list: Joe Hungate - K8OM Glenn Johnson - W0GJ Rich Mercer - W9YAC Jim Spencer - W0SR (may be late getting there) Jim Meade - NO0B TomVavra - WB8ZRL Jim Livengood - W0NB Sam Burrell - K0AFN Gayle Lawson - K0FLY Rick Heinrich - N0YY If you would like to join us, please let me know ASAP and I'll give the restaurant a call and see if we can get you worked in. A reminder, the EIDXA club meeting will be in Linn Hall room 1142. Doors open at 6:30 p.m. and the meeting starts at 7:30 p.m. Hope to see everyone there! 73, Joe - K8OM ______________________________________________________________ EIDXA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Jerry WW?E "Dots and Dashes" - the original digital mode. From rhaendel at q.com Sat Jul 30 09:52:42 2016 From: rhaendel at q.com (Rich Haendel) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 08:52:42 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] July 29 meeting Message-ID: Minutes of the EIDXA meting July 29, 2016 1. 31 hams answered the CQ call. 2. Meeting was called to order by Joe, K8OM at 7:30 PM 3. Introductions were made all around. 4. Discussions of upcoming DXpeditions led by Glenn, W0GJ 5. The club voted to send $250 to the San Felix Dxpedition scheduled for April 2017. W3ACO will make the payment. 6. K0CF noted that the web site is updated weekly with new contest and DX information. 7. Repeater update was provided. Presently working OK. 8. Club picnic scheduled for Sept 24 in Martelle, 9. Congratulations to Bob, W0GXA for his article in QST. 10. Joe, K8OM provided results of the on-line survey. Takeaway is that we need more youthful hams to join the club. 11. After the break, Roger, N4RR provided an excellent presentation of the VP8STI/VP8SGI expedition and the significant efforts to put these two entities on the air. Thanks Roger 73 Rich W3ACO From rideon2266 at aol.com Sat Jul 30 10:36:29 2016 From: rideon2266 at aol.com (rideon2266 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 09:36:29 -0500 Subject: [EIDXA] July 29 meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47AE177E-972F-4648-917A-1808F9BADB8F@aol.com> For the benefit of the members: The QST article has produced numerous emails asking for help. Most interesting though is the discovery that all major HVAC companies and several smaller firms buy their motors from one company: Regal Beloit in Ft Wayne, IN. ...and there is an engineer there who is also a ham who fields the complaints that are fed to him from the OEMs. Steve Nadin W9SAN contacted me to say he has other solutions he's used depending on the particular application. So, if you've complained to a manufacturer and not received any help, holler and I'll put you in touch with him. I've also encouraged him to post on eham.net to get the word out. Bob > On Jul 30, 2016, at 08:52, Rich Haendel wrote: > > Minutes of the EIDXA meting July 29, 2016 > > > 1. 31 hams answered the CQ call. > > 2. Meeting was called to order by Joe, K8OM at 7:30 PM > > 3. Introductions were made all around. > > 4. Discussions of upcoming DXpeditions led by Glenn, W0GJ > > 5. The club voted to send $250 to the San Felix Dxpedition scheduled for April 2017. W3ACO will make the payment. > > 6. K0CF noted that the web site is updated weekly with new contest and DX information. > > 7. Repeater update was provided. Presently working OK. > > 8. Club picnic scheduled for Sept 24 in Martelle, > > 9. Congratulations to Bob, W0GXA for his article in QST. > > 10. Joe, K8OM provided results of the on-line survey. Takeaway is that we need more youthful hams to join the club. > > 11. After the break, Roger, N4RR provided an excellent presentation of the VP8STI/VP8SGI expedition and the significant efforts to put these two entities on the air. Thanks Roger > > > > 73 Rich W3ACO > > > ______________________________________________________________ > EIDXA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eidxa > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:EIDXA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html