[EIDXA] when is sunrise?

[David J. Schmocker]

For all of us who rely on the sun to affect/impact propagation:  (low 
banders, especially),  discussion started with "how is sunrise defined?"
visible sun or sun as it changes ionosphere, etc.  if visible, how high 
up?  

see below

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: Topband: sunrise
Date: 	Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:07:59 -0400
From: 	Carl K9LA <k9la at gte.net>
To: 	topband at contesting.com, W7lr at aol.com
References: 	<c8e.e5ffbe0.335b8c90 at aol.com>



  Bob,

The official definition of sunrise is when the center of the sun is 
0.8333 degrees below the horizon. Due to refraction in the atmosphere 
and the size of the sun, this puts the upper limb of the sun on the 
horizon under average atmospheric conditions with an unobstructed view.

Thus the official definition of sunrise is based on a visual criteria - 
not an ionospheric criteria - thus confirming your suspicion that the 
two are not necessarily tied together. The time of a sunrise peak more 
than likely depends on when the various ionospheric regions start 
becoming illuminated and then it depends on the day-to-day variation of 
those same regions. Trying to pin this down could be tough.

Carl K9LA
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