[ECAC] Next moves
Charlie Miller, AE4UX
ae4ux at bellsouth.net
Thu Jan 30 15:14:56 EST 2014
ECAC Members,
Jeff has the right idea. I agree with his assessment of the situation.
No further action is needed on our part unless the P&SC or the BOD
requests our input.
73 Charlie AE4UX
Roanoke Division
On 1/30/2014 3:06 PM, Jeff Ryan wrote:
> All:
>
> Last I knew, the ECAC report was accepted with thanks. I'm uncertain as to the immediate need for a supplementary submission because we feel the NTS 'rebuttal' submission to be incorrect. We stand by our report as submitted. Period. We should not get into an argument over the merits of a document that was not submitted by the ECAC. Everyone understands that there was dissent within the committee--- such dissent is normal, expected and does not require further comment. Just like a Supreme Court decision--- the minority is free to publish a report but that doesn't alter the validity of the majority report-- nor does the Court ever update, amend or further justify its decision based on comments in a minority report.
>
> If a member of the PSC or the board cares to ask specific questions they are free to do so but I would caution against mounting a defense lest onlookers get the impression that ECAC members believe we need to mount a defense where none is necessary-- casting doubt about our belief in our own report and adding fuel to the "ARES versus NTS will never understand each other" debate.
>
> Again: We stand by our report. Period.
>
> Please let me know if I've missed something.
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff Ryan, K0RM
> Rocky Mountain Division
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Dave Colter" <dbcolter at myfairpoint.net>
> To: ecac at qth.net
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:26:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [ECAC] Next moves
>
> I'd like others to fact check the rebuttal to make sure my memory is correct
> (often doubtful of late!), and then we can tweak it and send it off to P&SC.
> I'd also like to find out who received their proposal and the analysis to
> make sure everyone gets our side of the story.
>
>
>
> Beyond that, I think we should:
>
> 1) Develop a brief document contrasting the two proposals and their goals
> and approach.
>
> 2) Talk to our Directors, and start talking about this with as many people
> in as many forums as possible, asking them to contact their own directors.
>
>
>
> Obviously, if anyone has other ideas or suggestions, let 'em fly. That's why
> we have this email group.
>
>
>
> I think what we don't want (or need) to do is attack the NTS proposal in the
> factually challenged way their "analysis" paper did ours. Our proposal is
> strong enough that we can keep it 100% factual and objective and do just
> fine.
>
>
>
> As an aside, it appears that at least one key NTS staffer whose name was
> signed to their analysis of our proposal never saw it, before or after it
> was sent out. I have wonder how many other "signers" didn't see it. Chuck,
> perhaps you can answer that one.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Colter, WA1ZCN
>
> ASEC - Operations, Training
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecac-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:ecac-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
> Behalf Of John J. McDonough
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:43 AM
> To: ecac at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [ECAC] Attempt #2 - NTS proposal and commentary
>
>
>
> So, what is our next move?
>
>
>
> 73 de WB8RCR
>
>
>
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