From crownhaven at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 15 17:43:01 2020
From: crownhaven at bellsouth.net (Crownhaven)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:43:01 -0500
Subject: [Dxbase] New LOTW Software
References: <ecfda494-c8fc-2225-b928-88c27a2863b9.ref@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <ecfda494-c8fc-2225-b928-88c27a2863b9@bellsouth.net>

Saw this on LOTW page.? I wonder if it applies to DXB.? I have not 
upgraded to the latest LOTW software.? In fact, I'm running 2.3.1 on XP 
and it won't allow me to update.? Probably a good thing.? Here is the 
text from the ARRL:

Beginning with TQSL 2.5.2, ARRL is now checking consistency to improve 
the integrity of logging data collected in Logbook of The World.? The 
information in ADIF format with which users submit logs is now being 
used for crosschecks that help prevent inaccurate or incomplete 
information from contaminating the Logbook database.

The Amateur Data Interchange Format (ADIF) exists precisely to help 
ensure the accuracy of ?data interchange? among amateur radio 
applications.???By checking that the station information entered for an 
overall log matches the ADIF data on an individual QSO, Logbook can 
reject entries where inconsistencies suggest that the data are 
faulty.??Accurate entries help operators get all the confirmations that 
they deserve, and prevent useless entries that will never be matched.

The first Implementation of these crosschecks, in TQSL 2.5.2 onward, has 
revealed that many logging applications have not been following the 
rules laid out by the ADIF standard.??The current version of the 
standard has been in place since May 2019 and is publicly available at 
www.adif.org <http://www.adif.org>.? The field used for checking 
location has been in the ADIF standard since 2004.? The standard is 
maintained and voted on by the ADIF group, including 22 voting members, 
of which ARRL is only one.

N4JQQ + I have no idea if DXB is using the current version of the 
standard but it seems like that would not be possible.? My question to 
the group is, if a user of DXB 2007 were to upgrade to the latest 
version of TQSL, would exports from DXB still work??????????

Some commentators have suggested that ARRL has not defined the ADIF 
fields appropriately.??At least, this represents a misunderstanding of 
how the ADIF standard is developed and maintained, and at worst ignores 
the responsibility of logging applications to follow the standard if 
they provide files which they claim to be in ADIF format.

Operators have a right to insist that the logging applications they use 
conform to the standards agreed upon by the ADIF collective.??Those who 
find their logger out of conformance should demand that it be updated, 
or, if the logger is unsupported or unwilling to update, should 
investigate switching to a logger that is a cooperative member of the 
universe of amateur radio logging applications.


From dickw1ksz at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 18:26:18 2020
From: dickw1ksz at gmail.com (Richard Solomon)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 15:26:18 -0700
Subject: [Dxbase] New LOTW Software
In-Reply-To: <ecfda494-c8fc-2225-b928-88c27a2863b9@bellsouth.net>
References: <ecfda494-c8fc-2225-b928-88c27a2863b9.ref@bellsouth.net>
	<ecfda494-c8fc-2225-b928-88c27a2863b9@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <CAC5FBO-PsV0quSShLtd7YnYMrQHWFVsOpzbftbB5JEtC9NVVDg@mail.gmail.com>

I installed 2.5.2 and did a small upload
to LoTW and all went well, even got
two confirmations.

>From what I have read it seems the
major issues are with HRD.

I will upgrade to 2.5.3 when it comes out
and try another upload.

IMHO, newer is not always better !!

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:43 PM Crownhaven <crownhaven at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Saw this on LOTW page.  I wonder if it applies to DXB.  I have not
> upgraded to the latest LOTW software.  In fact, I'm running 2.3.1 on XP
> and it won't allow me to update.  Probably a good thing.  Here is the
> text from the ARRL:
>
> Beginning with TQSL 2.5.2, ARRL is now checking consistency to improve
> the integrity of logging data collected in Logbook of The World.  The
> information in ADIF format with which users submit logs is now being
> used for crosschecks that help prevent inaccurate or incomplete
> information from contaminating the Logbook database.
>
> The Amateur Data Interchange Format (ADIF) exists precisely to help
> ensure the accuracy of ?data interchange? among amateur radio
> applications.   By checking that the station information entered for an
> overall log matches the ADIF data on an individual QSO, Logbook can
> reject entries where inconsistencies suggest that the data are
> faulty.  Accurate entries help operators get all the confirmations that
> they deserve, and prevent useless entries that will never be matched.
>
> The first Implementation of these crosschecks, in TQSL 2.5.2 onward, has
> revealed that many logging applications have not been following the
> rules laid out by the ADIF standard.  The current version of the
> standard has been in place since May 2019 and is publicly available at
> www.adif.org <http://www.adif.org>.  The field used for checking
> location has been in the ADIF standard since 2004.  The standard is
> maintained and voted on by the ADIF group, including 22 voting members,
> of which ARRL is only one.
>
> N4JQQ + I have no idea if DXB is using the current version of the
> standard but it seems like that would not be possible.  My question to
> the group is, if a user of DXB 2007 were to upgrade to the latest
> version of TQSL, would exports from DXB still work??????????
>
> Some commentators have suggested that ARRL has not defined the ADIF
> fields appropriately.  At least, this represents a misunderstanding of
> how the ADIF standard is developed and maintained, and at worst ignores
> the responsibility of logging applications to follow the standard if
> they provide files which they claim to be in ADIF format.
>
> Operators have a right to insist that the logging applications they use
> conform to the standards agreed upon by the ADIF collective.  Those who
> find their logger out of conformance should demand that it be updated,
> or, if the logger is unsupported or unwilling to update, should
> investigate switching to a logger that is a cooperative member of the
> universe of amateur radio logging applications.
>
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